February 26, MMXXI 45

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Re: February 26, MMXXI 45

Post by Z6IIAB » Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:30 pm

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Atm I also wonder how often the characters are mutually exclusive? Like there are probably people out in the world who have a bit of both the new redneck guy and the Qanon guys in them. Hm....

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isn't new redneck guy = qanon guy? it's like saying someone is half german and half french. just say they're white lol istg i understand you less and less lolololol
omg... you meant as in these unammed characters!!!:

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jfc, the way you phrased it was so confusing to me for some reason lol. yeah, there's FOR SURE people in the world who embody BOTH of those type of guys, since they aren't really that differently, personality/ideals-wise.
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Re: February 26, MMXXI 45

Post by Z6IIAB » Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:45 pm

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Yeah it's a bit tough to explain the obviousness factor in "white guilt rays" from today's strip for example. Like that Woke TV would even allow that kind of absurdity maybe isn't even on Amber's radar. She's still there too though....

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I guess it means racists are unnafeccted by white guilt since they don't even think racism is wrong in the first place.
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Re: February 26, MMXXI 45

Post by lurker » Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:29 pm

Z6IIAB wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:45 pm
Russly wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:35 am
Yeah it's a bit tough to explain the obviousness factor in "white guilt rays" from today's strip for example. Like that Woke TV would even allow that kind of absurdity maybe isn't even on Amber's radar. She's still there too though....

-Russly
I guess it means racists are unaffected by white guilt since they don't even think racism is wrong in the first place.
I think the comic is also outlining how "white guilt" is considered by Woke TV as a weapon to attack white people. From the liberals' point of view, every white person should feel white guilt, but from the conservatives' point of view, white guilt is an invention to brainwash people into compliance.

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Re: February 26, MMXXI 45

Post by Z6IIAB » Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:55 pm

lurker wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:29 pm
Z6IIAB wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:45 pm
Russly wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:35 am
Yeah it's a bit tough to explain the obviousness factor in "white guilt rays" from today's strip for example. Like that Woke TV would even allow that kind of absurdity maybe isn't even on Amber's radar. She's still there too though....

-Russly
I guess it means racists are unaffected by white guilt since they don't even think racism is wrong in the first place.
I think the comic is also outlining how "white guilt" is considered by Woke TV as a weapon to attack white people. From the liberals' point of view, every white person should feel white guilt, but from the conservatives' point of view, white guilt is an invention to brainwash people into compliance.
Absolutely. I'd like to add that, from what I've read about racism, feeling guilty is just a stepping stone to actually feeling empathetic towars people of color (either sad for them or angry on their behalf) and eventually starting to act towards dismantling white supremacy. But I guess some white people, mostly liberals, get stuck in the "feeling guilty" phase because they don't think white people can or should do anything to end racism... or they don't really want to face the fact that they're still racist despite being aware of it. Either way, they are being individualistic and just wanna get their asses out of the game, be like "oh i feel so guilty, is that proof enough i'm not one of the bad whites???". They just wanna stop feeling "so bad" about something they didn't *personally* invented. Like, white people, as individuals who are alive today obviously didn't invent racism, lol. But as a historical class, yeah, we created that mess and we should be held accountable, our ancestors aren't here anymore to respond for their crimes! Of course we are responsible for undoing it, of course we can and should do something to end it. It's white people's historical and cultural heritage, and it's horrible, we gotta end it. Even if racism doesn't affects us, obviously, it DOES get us privileges at the expense of POC's human rights and that is obviously unfair and absurd, of course we must and should do something about it. If you don't, you are part of the problem, and just feeling guilty ain't helpful either. White guilt might be a start to get white people to fight for equal rights, but on its on it's just a tool for the oppressor to feel sad about themselves, feel like they are the ones being victimized and do nothing to undo the hierarchy that put them on top of others at the expense of their rights.
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Re: February 26, MMXXI 45

Post by RikkiTikkiTavi » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:40 am

Z6IIAB wrote:
Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:55 pm

Absolutely. I'd like to add that, from what I've read about racism, feeling guilty is just a stepping stone to actually feeling empathetic towars people of color (either sad for them or angry on their behalf) and eventually starting to act towards dismantling white supremacy. But I guess some white people, mostly liberals, get stuck in the "feeling guilty" phase because they don't think white people can or should do anything to end racism... or they don't really want to face the fact that they're still racist despite being aware of it. Either way, they are being individualistic and just wanna get their asses out of the game, be like "oh i feel so guilty, is that proof enough i'm not one of the bad whites???". They just wanna stop feeling "so bad" about something they didn't *personally* invented. Like, white people, as individuals who are alive today obviously didn't invent racism, lol. But as a historical class, yeah, we created that mess and we should be held accountable, our ancestors aren't here anymore to respond for their crimes! Of course we are responsible for undoing it, of course we can and should do something to end it. It's white people's historical and cultural heritage, and it's horrible, we gotta end it. Even if racism doesn't affects us, obviously, it DOES get us privileges at the expense of POC's human rights and that is obviously unfair and absurd, of course we must and should do something about it. If you don't, you are part of the problem, and just feeling guilty ain't helpful either. White guilt might be a start to get white people to fight for equal rights, but on its on it's just a tool for the oppressor to feel sad about themselves, feel like they are the ones being victimized and do nothing to undo the hierarchy that put them on top of others at the expense of their rights.
Well put. And we can just insert patriarchy or any other system of oppression into that thought process too. It is not enough just to feel guilty. Making things even means doing something to dismantle the system as it stands. Our 'feelings' are nice and all, but feelings are not action.

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Re: February 26, MMXXI 45

Post by Z6IIAB » Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:35 am

yeah! you can definetly think like that about patriarchy, 100%.
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Re: February 26, MMXXI 45

Post by Russly » Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:35 pm

Absolutely. In fact it's been argued to me that we basically live with "all the pain and all the joy" of existence at the same time all the time. The "bad feeling" won't go away ever in some sense, this isn't work that would be complete in our lifetimes one would think. Given the infinite nature of our experience, we live day to day on a need-to-know basis, meaning... phrases like "I think about them every day" don't come from nowhere.

My bad on the reference!

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