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3/21/07 - Apology
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Squig is both pig and person. Much like Satan is both deity and dude. Tat's symbolism is pretty versatile.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I didn't find it, elysiana did. (Not that you're likely to know who that is right now. Razz)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Satan has never been a deity.

It wouldn't make any sense.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, he is (in this comic at least),
a being with supernatural powers, whom some people worship.

is that not the definition of a deity?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if we look at this from a Christian perspective, that's blasphemous.

Notice the presence of a Christian god.

Don't bring up Buddha because he isn't a deity, and the Dragon is just... well the Dragon kind of just fucks with my point.

But Satan is beneath God, obviously, and there is nothing god like about him.

And we know that Satan is the Satan from the Bible because references to Satan being booted from paradise are made.

And on that note, Buddha and Mohammed aren't deities (or at least they shouldn't be) and they both had supernatural powers and are worshiped.


Phew, I probably didn't need to go into that.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mohammed isn't worshipped.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes he is, just as a prophet.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Define 'worshipped'.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Secret wrote:
Define 'worshipped'.


I think that having an entire book devoted to the way that Muhammad acted, so that others could use his actions as an example of the way that they themselves should live, would definitely be a start.

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Sunnah literally means "trodden path" and it refers, in common usage, to the normative example of Muhammad, as preserved in traditions known as hadith ("reports") about his speech, his actions, his acquiescence to the words and actions of others, and his personal characteristics.[38] By the time of the classical Muslim jurist, ash-Shafi'i (d. 820), the Sunnah represented an important facet in Islamic law, where any action described by this term would be highly recommended for the Muslim to perform. This was a notion supported by Qur'anic verses such as: "Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct)..." The Sunnah also became an key exponent in clarifying understanding of the Qur'an.[40] As such, the authentic hadiths are considered by Muslims to be an authoritative source of revelation (second only to the Qur'an) by virtue of its representing divine guidance as implemented by Muhammad.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose Muhammed is considered 'sacred', and revered, but are there any of the traditional types of worship offered up to him (or Buddha, for that matter)?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Secret wrote:
I suppose Muhammed is considered 'sacred', and revered, but are there any of the traditional types of worship offered up to him (or Buddha, for that matter)?
No, I'd say he's worshiped in the same way Buddha is worshiped.

He did always try to make it very clear that he was only a man, and not divine. (and why wouldn't he after that whole Jesus thing?)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think, then, that they don't exactly fit the definition Damage was trying to fit them into.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno. I'm not real sure what Damage's actual point was supposed to be.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That Satan isn't a deity.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wikipedia wrote:
Religions that avow monotheism may in fact be henotheistic in that they recognize the existence of several echelons of supernatural, immortal, deity-like beings in addition to the supreme God, such as angels, saints, Satan, demons, and devils, although these beings may not be considered deities.

He may or not be considered deific.
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