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E-boy · Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:55 am Post subject:

Too true Sam, too true....

*Observes a moment of silence for the death of common sense*

OH! I meant to mention. Being that this "morality" issue appears to be another manifestation of, among other things, certain fundamentalist values I'm reminded of a really good book. Intrestingly it's by an extremely religious man and called "Searching for Darwin's God" if I remember correctly. The point is, is that it's a rather strong refutation of things like ID. The author makes a convincing argument that IDers and other fundamentalists are actually being rather insulting in their view of god.

I still don't believe in god, but I don't have a problem with folks who do. I prefer they don't froth at the mouth though.
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E-boy · Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:57 am Post subject:

and before anyone gets their panties in a wad I know there are people other than the religious right with opinions on this. I just like picking on the religious right.
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E-boy · Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:30 pm Post subject:

I'll endorse the death penalty when they can conclusively show that false confessions (at present it's been shown with current interrogation techniques in the states that there is a possibility of frighteningly high false confession rates), Eye witness testimony (one of the most unreliable forms of evidence EVER! If you don't know this already see studies on witness reliability. You can google them. Also see inattentional blindness), supposedly reliable fingerprint evidence (on occasion finger print convictions have been turned over by DNA evidence. Unlike DNA evidence there has been very little, if any, work to demonstrate exactly how unique fingerprints are. The same goes for dental impression evidence) have been sufficiently improved to assure no innocent people are ever executed. Additionally a better understanding of the science behind DNA evidence and procedures for processing said evidence by lawyers, jurors, and judges really needs to be achieved.

In the mean time I can't support it. It's worth noting that death row inmates in most states go through years of appeals before execution. That actually adds up to more costs than life in prison does for tax payers (although this is certainly a debatable topic).

As for the current administration's hypocrissy in issues? It's not about morality like I said. It's about politics, and influence peddling.
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If the state can kill people, why can't I?
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Raise your hands if you've never steered conversation of topic.

Don't wory everyone does that around here

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