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Uncle Benny
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has anyone seen Penn and Teller Bullshit?
you may be interested in checking out this particular episode:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hftbu34X08
due to the way youtube is set up, they had to cut the show up to 3 segments.
but one of the basic premise is also: don't believe everything you read.
which also includes bad poll taking. |
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Arc Tempest
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And last I checked Gallup was normally defined as bad poll taking.
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Renee Katz
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Oh, I loved this one.
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Xen
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Waaaait.
Creationism is BEING TAUGHT in schools????
WTF. Tinarg, are you sure, do have any reports? I know in some backward states it is, but NATIONWIDE!!! If it was, then thats just majorly fucked up.
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If evolution is true, it would only cause a problem for believers in a literal reading of the Bible. Some god believers are able to maintain a non-literal reading of the Bible AND accept the possibility of evolution. (Of course, once you've gone non-literal with the Bible, there is no telling what the hell the pile of shit actually says.) There are also those god believers who don't pay attention to the bible at all who are perfectly able to believe in gods AND accept evolution. Lil Evil is a bit off base when he thinks that Darwin is any threat to gods, real or imaginary. Huh?
| Quote: | | Is Li'Evil's slippers Peekachu? |
Christ. Do they look like Pikachu? No. They are cute faces with horns. Instead of being cute bunnies, they are cute demons.
| Quote: | | Noticed how the weapons all point to the left (except the sword)! Nifty. Evil on the left side. |
What in fucking hell?
| Quote: | | Also I've noticed that the "T" sometimes shows up on the left / right and sometimes 3rd / 4th panel. Wonder if that has meaning? |
Good lord, no.
| Quote: | | My guess is that it stands for Tat or maybe Tatsuya. |
Isn't standing for Tat the same as standing for Tatsuya?
| Quote: | | Is there any nation other than the USA that takes creationism seriously? |
Moron.
| Quote: | | I've found strongly suggests that creationism is a big issue in the US. |
It is a bigger issue in the US than it is elsewhere, but there are more and more politically-motivated fundamentalist groups forming in other counties too, due most likely to their undying efforts to spread world-wide. Australia and the UK are hearing more and more from these people.
| Quote: | | Besides it is taught at schools nationwide |
No, it's not. Some schools in more fundamentalist areas have fundamentalist teachers that are more vocal about their beliefs with their students, but creationism is NOT being taught in the public schools as a standard. |
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filecore
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:32 am Post subject: |
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| suzan wrote: | | Noticed how the weapons all point to the left (except the sword)! Nifty. Evil on the left side. |
I wouldn't say all - only the handguns, in fact. Some weapons are symmetrical. And only 65% of bladed weapons are clearly pointing left. (The third axe-bladed weapon can't be seen whether it's double-bladed or not; if could have some other face with a larger blade.) |
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Spanky
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| filecore wrote: |
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Noticed how the weapons all point to the left (except the sword)! Nifty. Evil on the left side.
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I wouldn't say all - only the handguns, in fact. Some weapons are symmetrical. And only 65% of bladed weapons are clearly pointing left. (The third axe-bladed weapon can't be seen whether it's double-bladed or not; if could have some other face with a larger blade.)
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Dear god. Why would I dare traverse this quadrant of the forum?!?
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Xen
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4chan /b/ section, or called random.
www.4chan.org
do not go there for your sanity's sake.
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Tinarg
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I'm sorry about the nationwide thing, obviously I mixed something up or my source was just wrong (I read several articles some weren't in english so I won't bother to check where I got that wrong, since you won't be able to check it anyway). Thank you for pointing it out to me.
| Quote: | but one of the basic premise is also: don't believe everything you read.
which also includes bad poll taking. |
| Quote: | | And last I checked Gallup was normally defined as bad poll taking. |
I can't tell how reliable the gallup poll is but all the numbers I've found were approximately the same.
See http://pewforum.org/surveys/origins/#3
Science also published similar numbers in 2005 too.
I really don't know why I should think all polls are wrong. In general if I have the time I check more than one source but as long as I don't find contradicting info I tend to assume the info is somewhat correct. |
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Pilot
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| Tinarg wrote: |
I really don't know why I should think all polls are wrong. In general if I have the time I check more than one source but as long as I don't find contradicting info I tend to assume the info is somewhat correct. |
There are lies, Damed Lies, and Statistics.
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WheelsOfConfusion
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The US isn't the only one, according to polls.
Since there's really no difference between Creationism and Intelligent Design, I choose to lump the two together for a result of 39%. |
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Snorri
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Wow. That is some seriously disturbing shit.
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Ki-Lo
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| Secret wrote: | | ...Might have been better with a puppet, though. |
nope. Meg's last cry as WWotW is suitably immortal for the Director's purpose
Hmm, wonder if He's offended by a mortal value-judgement such as "intelligent design" .. 
(disclaimer: systems should be taught as such, no more no less) |
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Funkentelechy
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| Spanky wrote: | | filecore wrote: |
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Noticed how the weapons all point to the left (except the sword)! Nifty. Evil on the left side.
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I wouldn't say all - only the handguns, in fact. Some weapons are symmetrical. And only 65% of bladed weapons are clearly pointing left. (The third axe-bladed weapon can't be seen whether it's double-bladed or not; if could have some other face with a larger blade.)
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Dear god. Why would I dare traverse this quadrant of the forum?!?
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H_e_a_r_t
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| Bart wrote: | I have a hard time believing that God would be afraid of Darwin. Therefore I'm imagining him up in heaven, being amused by Lil' Evils latest attempt to fight him.
I almost typed "being amused by Secrets ..." there, I swear it's just because of his avatar. |
i laughed sooo hard reading the fine print |
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