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it looks like Lieberman is OUT in Connecticut. he's about 4% down to Ned Lamont in the Democratic Senate primary, with all precincts closed.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/08/democratic.primaries/index.html

Lieberman is vowing to run as an independent in the fall even if he loses the primary, which has got a bunch of folks worried that he'll split the vote and maybe hand his seat over to Republican. he already has enough signatures on a petition to get on the ballot, so it'll be interesting to see if the Dem brass clamps down on him.

also, Rep. Cynthia McKinney, the lady who scuffled with a security guard in D.C. because she wasn't wearing her ID pin is also losing a runoff by a lot.
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CopperTop · Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:19 am Post subject:

Accourding to the Hartford Courant, Joseph Leiberman conceded the Democratic primary to his opponant at about 11:00 PM EDT, but vows to continue the fight by running as an independent in the general election in November.

Perhaps Mr. Leiberman doesn't understand that the citizens of Connecticut are not interested in being represented by someone that doesn't share their views on a major issue, such as the deployment of US troops in Iraq.
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MsFrisby · Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:28 am Post subject:

I voted in the primary today. Very Happy

I better hear that all of you vote in the general election in November, too.
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Sam · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 9182

Ha ha, Lieberman is so totally going to Bull Moose the Democrats.

Way of the world. A two-way split will give the seat to the Republican contender, even with a safe margin of plurality.

It's because we don't use instant runoff voting, which is in and of itself because we're retarded.

Kilgore · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 2831 Location: Portland, Or

Major Tom · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 7562

mr. leiberman has been hedging his bets since he ran for senator and vice president at the same time.

he should finally go soak.

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Monkey Mcdermott · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 3152

I'm curious as to why that is. While taking a stand on an issue can be a good thing, these people ARE elected to represent the will of the people. In Lieberman's case he ceased representing the will of the people he was elected to represent, so they voted him out. Choosing to run as an independant is simply an act of arrogance in his case. He's not ready to give up his cushy and power filled job. If he REALLY cared about the will of the people, he'd have ran as an independant from the get-go rather than waiting until he was defeated in the primary election. Perhaps i just dont trust a group of people aged 60+ to properly represent the younger mass of their constituancy. For the most part they fail to grasp a lot of the technological advances the country has had since they were young (Internet tubes lol!). Yet there they are making laws about it.

Amilam · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 922

Well I don’t think it’s particular fair to compare Ted Stevens’ understanding of the 21st Century (which must terrify him daily) to Leiberman‘s. I also don’t think that the will of the people is voiced in the primaries. I’m getting awfully tired of the “poor, beleaguered Joe Lierberman” routine from the right (not you Kilgore, but those who do it purely to try and label all on the left as extremists). I’ve seen some far right nut jobs comparing it literally to fascism. Personally, for the sheer sake of comedy I’d like to see Lierberman nominated as the Democratic Presidential Candidate. Just to see how quickly Fox News and other conservative outlets can swallow their tongues.
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Major Tom · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 7562

Monkey -

it's not so much that politicians are elected to be the will of the people...

...it's more that politicians are supposedly elected because their own beliefs (as reflected in their compaign and platform -- or, at least, that's as it should be) agree with the will of the people.

the problem is that politicians avoid saying anything (but perhaps lies) during campaigns, so nobody knows what a politicians stands for or believes in until some company pays enough to make up his mind.

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Dogen · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 10421 Location: Bellingham, WA

I have no sympathy for Lieberman - he's not the country bumpkin taken advantage of by big city swindlers. He's a Washington politician through and through. It's a dirty game, politics, and he didn't come out on top in this one. The (democratic) people of Connectict have voiced their opinion.

That being said, I am idealistic enough to not fault him for running as an independent. Values are important and people (voters) should have options. I despise the partisanship of our current system and hear all too often Democrats saying on the one hand how Republicans are sheep who follow their leaders, corrupt the political process, rubber stampers, etc. and then turn around and say Joe should drop out because he'll hurt the Party.

I'd love to see a Democratic Congress, I'm just sad to see values (of either party) fall under the wheels of the political machine.
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Sam · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 9182

Yeah, they call it the "Liberal inquisition."

I wouldn't be inclined to agree were it not for the fact that his replacement is essentially a one-subject sort of guy, in presentation.

Major Tom · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 7562

as of yet, he is "not the recipient of the judas kiss"