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Alternative medicine—if it worked, it would just be medicine
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picturesofsky



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish I were that cool.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WheelsOfConfusion wrote:
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The fact that taking a faux drug can powerfully improve some people's health—the so-called placebo effect—has long been considered an embarrassment to the serious practice of pharmacology.

What?

Stuff like this is why I stopped reading Wired.


Wired can still be super fun sometimes in spite of the quality of their journalism going down.

idk it's like they're trying to find themselves again after being a tech newsmagazine stopped being a sell-all.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

picturesofsky wrote:
It was here we were talking about the placebo effect wasn't it?

Really fascinating article:

http://www.wired.com/medtech/drugs/magazine/17-09/ff_placebo_effect?currentPage=1

The placebo effect is now as powerful, and in some cases, more powerful than commonly used painkilling and psychiatric drugs. Largely due to the uniquitous marketing of over-the-counter and prescription medication. The main pharmaceuticals are now funding massive trials of the placebo effect to find out how it is stimulated.

Alternative medicine that is becoming medicine. Smile


Aww man, ya beat me to it. I thought the parts about how shape and color affected the placebo effect as well as the bit about Alzheimer's patients.


Also the idea of using placebos in sports reminded me of Ron and Harry Rolling Eyes
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Michael



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WheelsOfConfusion wrote:
Stuff like this is why I stopped reading Wired.


I've been trying to read "The Register" because it contains all sorts of in-crowd stuff and info I like but the writing is atrocious. They keep trying to spin everything into clever headlines which means I have to read the first half of every article just to get what's going on. Next day I open it again, see the same headlines and I _still_ don't know what they meant. If those links weren't red I'd probably read 'm again :/
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

During early health classes in school I somehow confused the words placebo and placenta. When we started reading that the control group in all these trials "were given a placebo" I decided I really didn't get science.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

unfortunately, teddy has missed his opportunity to lead this discussion into the promised land.

Edward Kennedy, Senate Stalwart, Dies
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Major Tom wrote:
unfortunately, teddy has missed his opportunity to lead this discussion into the promised land.

Edward Kennedy, Senate Stalwart, Dies

Well damn.
I see Wikipedia has their usual, quality coverage of politician deaths.
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Major Tom



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is going to make the entire state of mass. a freakin' nightmare in the run-up to the special election.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NOW WE SHALL TALK ABOUT NOTHING ELSE FOR THE REST OF THE WEEK AND PROBABLY MOST OF NEXT WEEK TOO unless michelle obama gets caught wearing shorts again or something but what are the odds of that.

So decrees the mainstream media!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even over here they spent a full 10 minutes on it on the news. I was like "I DON'T CARE! MOVE ON! Argh no, we don't need to know how a person we don't know thinks about it, just go to the next news item!"

I guess there was just not that much to report...

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:11 am    Post subject: But go ahead anyway ;) Reply with quote

Someone named "glodenox" shouldn't be posting in a medicine thread...
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShadowCell wrote:
NOW WE SHALL TALK ABOUT NOTHING ELSE FOR THE REST OF THE WEEK AND PROBABLY MOST OF NEXT WEEK TOO unless michelle obama gets caught wearing shorts again or something but what are the odds of that.

So decrees the mainstream media!

bah, they still haven't let go of Michael Jackson.
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