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Korean troubles: a conflict impending?
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam wrote:
Oh man, this thread is adlinking me to the international korean dating site
Well, this thread does mention seamen. Just be careful where you're aiming that torpedo, we don't want another international korean crisis, sam.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam wrote:
Oh man, this thread is adlinking me to the international korean dating site

Yeah I was getting those too but I'm not sure if this is any better or worse:

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And a fall guy is found:
Kim Jong-il consolidates power
By Jack Kim – Mon Jun 7, 4:31 pm ET
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SEOUL (Reuters) – North Korea named a brother-in-law of leader Kim Jong-il to a powerful military post on Monday and sacked its premier in moves seen as consolidating Kim's grip on power and paving the way for his youngest son to succeed him.
Kim attended a rare session of the rubberstamp parliament, the Supreme People's Assembly, to personally name Jang Song-thaek as vice chairman of the National Defense Commission, the North's KCNA news agency said.
The commission, headed by the "Dear Leader" himself, represents the pinnacle of power in the hermit state.
The second assembly session in two months came amid growing momentum in the international community to punish Pyongyang for the sinking of a South Korean navy corvette in March that killed 46 sailors.
Jang, who had once fallen out of Kim's favor but has since returned to his inner circle, is the husband of the leader's sister, and is viewed as the key figure for ensuring a smooth transfer of power from Kim to one of his sons.
"Jang would be the most trustworthy person to Kim who can establish the foundation for succession to Jong-un," said Park Young-ho of the Korea Institute for National Analysis.
"This is a signal that they will be moving on existing power structures, no innovation or openness or reform."
The parliament also sacked the country's premier, who is considered the top economic official, and replaced him with Choe Yong-rim, a member of the old guard and another confidant of Kim's family who has been in key economic posts.
The dismissal of premier Kim Yong-il is likely linked to a currency revaluation late last year that, according to some media reports, incited widespread public discontent.
Kim, who suffered a stroke in 2008, missed the previous session of the Supreme People's Assembly in April, which amended the country's constitution to strengthen his power.


Full story: http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSTOE65603D
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read that yesterday on a Belgian newspaper site and it had me thoroughly confused. Took me a couple of minutes to spot the difference between Kim Yong Il and Kim Jong Il.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kim Jong Il, you see, has dissociative identity disorder. He is consolidating power by edging out himself as political competition.

If you're familiar with John Cusack's filmography, the mechanics here should all be pretty straightforward.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nathan wrote:
Kim Jong Il, you see, has dissociative identity disorder. He is consolidating power by edging out himself as political competition.

If you're familiar with John Cusack's filmography, the mechanics here should all be pretty straightforward.


I am sure that this is an insightfull and witty joke on Cusack's expense, but for the live of me I can't figure it out.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snorri wrote:
nathan wrote:
Kim Jong Il, you see, has dissociative identity disorder. He is consolidating power by edging out himself as political competition.

If you're familiar with John Cusack's filmography, the mechanics here should all be pretty straightforward.


I am sure that this is an insightfull and witty joke on Cusack's expense, but for the live of me I can't figure it out.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kim, who is dead
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

(he's dead)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We will miss Dom


I mean Kim



Huffington Post said it, not me Razz
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/08/kim-jong-ils-son-looks-st_n_604977.html
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some things never change:
North Korea threatens nuclear strike, U.N. expands sanctions
By Jack Kim and Louis Charbonneau
SEOUL/UNITED NATIONS | Thu Mar 7, 2013 5:48pm EST

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(Reuters) - North Korea threatened the United States on Thursday with a preemptive nuclear strike, raising the level of rhetoric as the U.N. Security Council approved new sanctions against the reclusive country.

The White House said North Korea's threats would only lead to Pyongyang's further international isolation and declared that the United States was "fully capable" of defending against any North Korean missile attack.

China's U.N. Ambassador Li Baodong said Beijing wanted to see "full implementation" of the new Security Council resolution, which tightens financial restrictions on Pyongyang and cracks down on its attempts to ship and receive banned cargo.

North Korea has accused the United States of using military drills in South Korea as a launch pad for a nuclear war and has scrapped the armistice with Washington that ended hostilities in the 1950-53 Korean War.

A North Korean general said on Tuesday that Pyongyang was scrapping the armistice. But the two sides remain technically at war as the civil war did not end with a treaty.

North Korea threatens the United States and its "puppet," South Korea, on an almost daily basis.

"Since the United States is about to ignite a nuclear war, we will be exercising our right to preemptive nuclear attack against the headquarters of the aggressor in order to protect our supreme interest," the North's foreign ministry spokesman said in a statement carried by the official KCNA news agency.

North Korea conducted a third nuclear test on February 12, in defiance of U.N. resolutions, and declared it had achieved progress in securing a functioning atomic arsenal. It is widely believed that the North does not have the capacity for a nuclear strike against the mainland of the United States.

Full Story: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/07/us-korea-north-attack-idUSBRE9260BR20130307
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Dennis Rodman failed his mission of peace...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wait until those sanctions have an effect on the regime said no one ever.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like to keep up with the Daily NK for info on North Korea, because they actually talk with defectors and have contacts inside the country.

http://www.dailynk.com/english/

There have been articles there in the past mentioning a popular North Korean phrase, "We should just start a war, then," followed by "Anyway, it's a war we'll surely win." This is said at times of frustration, for instance when dealing with mind-numbing bureacracy. My understanding is it's basically a way of saying, "Let's just blow it all up!" or "Let's just kill ourselves already" without being read as anti-socialist. They tack the bit about how they'd win anyway on the end because the statement raises suspicion.


Anyway, I highly doubt North Korea will attack the US. I think they overstate their capabilities, because the vagueness is a way to hold leverage over the US and South Korea. Also, China doesn't want them to, and China is their last big source of trade and food. China's patience with the carrying on of North Korea appears to be wearing thin.


Here is how North Koreans really see Dennis Rodman - http://www.dailynk.com/english/read.php?cataId=nk01500&num=10372

Also, if you are interested in being misinformed, excerpts from the official North Korean worker's party newspaper are available online in English and Spanish -

http://www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm

Occasionally they mention something going in in China or Russia which doesn't get much press over here in the US (Of course, it is always filtered beyond belief, so the usefulness of such reporting is very, very small.)
They also love to throw in articles about bad things going on in the US.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Y'know, I was thinking... (scary thought, that!)

If I were an unscrupulous war hawk, I sure could be tempted to put a little pony nuke on an old garbage scow, float it out into the middle of the Pacific, light that puppy off, and then blame North Korea. At that small of a yield, it would certainly look like one of their much-touted "lightweight" devices, and with North Korea's track record on their guidance systems coupled with this latest rhetoric, folks all around the world would be willing to believe it's the best Kim Jong Un could do in trying to reach Washington DC.

And, afterwards? Just keep my mouth shut and keep my troops out of it. China could be on the eastern shore of the northern Korean peninsula in three days. Their reason? "We don't want the fools running your country to actually touch off a nuclear war with our richest market-place!"

And, in a rather ironic way, the North Koreans would win the war; they'd be treated much better by Beijing than Pyongyang ever did for them!
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