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V For Vendetta , Live , Courtesy of The Egyptian People.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:02 am    Post subject: V For Vendetta , Live , Courtesy of The Egyptian People. Reply with quote

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/01/201112515334871490.html

Landlines are cut nationwide, mobile, internet....it's a total media blackout.

Care. It could happen to you

Edit: I don't know about the other news networks, but Aljazeera is doing continuous live coverage and it's amazing, the spirit and defiance being shown by people from all walks of life, ages, gender nationwide.

The police/security forces have totally lost momentum to the people. It's breathtaking.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.renesys.com/blog/2011/01/egypt-leaves-the-internet.shtml

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One of the very few exceptions to this block has been Noor Group (AS20928), which still has 83 out of 83 live routes to its Egyptian customers, with inbound transit from Telecom Italia as usual. Why was Noor Group apparently unaffected by the countrywide takedown order? Unknown at this point, but we observe that the Egyptian Stock Exchange (www.egyptse.com) is still alive at a Noor address.

Its DNS A records indicate that it's normally reachable at 4 different IP addresses, only one of which belongs to Noor. Internet transit path diversity is a sign of good planning by the Stock Exchange IT staff, and it appears to have paid off in this case. Did the Egyptian government leave Noor standing so that the markets could open next week?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is all pretty huge, it's kinda hard to fully grasp. Tunisia seems to be going incredibly well, and there are protests in Egypt, Algeria, Lebanon and now even Yemen. (Although I guess Lebanon would be the odd one out)

So interesting.

Edit: Add Jordan to that list.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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12.59pm: Here In another extraordinary audio report Jack Shenker in Cairo reports on signs that the police are siding with the protesters. He saw a senior police officer discard a teargas canister to signal to protesters that he was on their side. Will the regime fall he asked a state journalist. "It's already falling, it can't stop," Jack was told.


Welp.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He did it! George Bush brought democracy to the Middle East!

You're welcome, by the way.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: V For Vendetta , Live , Courtesy of The Egyptian People. Reply with quote

Pixi-san wrote:
Care. It could happen to you


Could, but hasnt.

See, no need for me to worry.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh Clinton, you two-faced bitch.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuck, that american ambassador was even worse.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Willem wrote:
Oh Clinton, you two-faced bitch.


What umbrage do you take with what she said, Willem? It seemed perfect to me, given the circumstances.

Hillary Clinton wrote:
We are deeply concerned about the use of violence by Egyptian police and security forces against protesters, and we call on the Egyptian Goverment to do everything in its power to restrain the security forces. At the same time, protesters should also refrain from violence and express themselves peacefully....We support the universal human rights of the Egyptian people, including the right to freedom of speech, of association, and of assembly. We urge the Egyptian authorities to allow peaceful protests and to reverse the unprecedented steps it has taken to cut off communications.

These protests underscore that there are deep grievances within Egyptian society and Egyptian Government needs to understand that violence will not make these grievances go away. As President Obama said yesterday, reform is absolutely critical to the well-being of Egypt.

Egypt has long been an important partner of the United States on a wide range of regional issues. As a partner, we strongly believe that the Egyptian Government needs to engage immediately with the Egyptian people in implementing needed economic, political, and social reforms. We continue to raise with the Egyptian Government --- as we do with other governments in the region --- the imperative for reform and greater openness and participation to provide a better future for all. We want to partner with the Egyptian people and their Government to realise their aspirations, to live in a democratic society that respects basic human rights.


Edit: Also, if you are in favor of the protesters, then the last thing you want the US (or any US official) to do is embrace them.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shit yeah, they didn't even need Him to come revolutionize for them!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mizike wrote:
Willem wrote:
Oh Clinton, you two-faced bitch.


What umbrage do you take with what she said, Willem? It seemed perfect to me, given the circumstances.

It's not just Clinton, it's the entire US response. They're on the fence, because they don't want to lose their intrests in the region. If the revolution fails, they can't have shown overwhelming support to the protesters. If it succeeds, they have to show at least some support. It's incredibly cynical and hypocritical, seeing as the only reason Mubarak was still in power is the massive amounts of US support.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Willem wrote:
Mizike wrote:
Willem wrote:
Oh Clinton, you two-faced bitch.


What umbrage do you take with what she said, Willem? It seemed perfect to me, given the circumstances.

It's not just Clinton, it's the entire US response. They're on the fence, because they don't want to lose their intrests in the region. If the revolution fails, they can't have shown overwhelming support to the protesters. If it succeeds, they have to show at least some support. It's incredibly cynical and hypocritical, seeing as the only reason Mubarak was still in power is the massive amounts of US support.


As I alluded to before, US-approval is the kiss of death to popular movements in the Middle East. I think you are wrong about the US reaction. They want to see what happens (because that is what pragmatic people do), but they have no love for Mubarak (which is why Gibbs just threatened to cut aid to Egypt in his press conference).
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would also like to note that the comments out of the White House mirror almost exactly those made during the Iranian popular riots -- and the US unquestionably wanted that government to fall.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, don't forget that egypte has Sinai, which complicates things.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe. They would be forced to cut off Mubarak even if he manages to survive this, I guess. He's pretty much lost his use to the US anyway, now. But you have to admit that after all those years of support, it's still pretty cynical of the US.

At least Fox News can be counted on to be much worse. They've already tied the Muslim Brotherhood (who only joined the protests today and are actually a democratic party) to the Iranian mullahs and Al Qaeda.
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