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In the world of science XLXVIII: 13 nonsensical things
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Major Tom



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scientists should be given shotguns

'real' scientists will never be caught
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CTrees



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Major Tom wrote:
scientists should be given shotguns

'real' scientists will never be caught


They can get by with just a crowbar, I'd say.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But I _like_ dingding :(
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Sam



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey everybody, remember this thread? Remember Dro's pictures of morgellons fibers?

(1) http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/may/07/morgellons-mysterious-illness

(you'll get itchy reading that article. Oh, psychosoma!)

(2)

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Morgellons patients usually self-diagnose on the Internet and find support and confirmation in on-line communities of people with similar illness beliefs.[51][58][59] In 2006, Waddell and Burke reported the influence of the Internet on their self-diagnosed Morgellons patients: "physicians are becoming more and more challenged by the many persons who attempt self-diagnosis on-line. In many cases, these attempts are well-intentioned, yet wrong, and a patient's belief in some of these oftentimes unscientific sites online may preclude their trust in the evidence-based approaches and treatment recommendations of their physician."[60] Dermatologist Caroline Koblenzer specifically faults the MRF website for misleading patients: "Clearly, as more and more of our patients discover this site (MRF), there will be an ever greater waste of valuable time and resources on fruitless research into fibers, fluffs, irrelevant bacteria, and innocuous worms and insects."[54] Vila-Rodriguez and MacEwan said in the American Journal of Psychiatry that the Internet is important in spreading and supporting "bizarre" disease beliefs, because "a belief is not considered delusional if it is accepted by other members of an individual’s culture or subculture."[58]
The LA Times, in an article on Morgellons, notes that "(t)he recent upsurge in symptoms can be traced directly to the Internet, following the naming of the disease by Mary Leitao, a Pennsylvania mother."[59] Robert Bartholomew, a sociologist who has studied the Morgellons phenomenon, states that the "World Wide Web has become the incubator for mass delusion and it (Morgellons) seems to be a socially transmitted disease over the Internet." According to this hypothesis, patients with delusions of parasitosis and other psychological disorders become convinced they have "Morgellons" after reading internet accounts of others with similar symptoms.[61][62] A 2005 Popular Mechanics article stated that Morgellons symptoms are well-known and characterized in the context of other disorders, and that "widespread reports of the strange fibers date back" only a few years to when the MRF first described them on the Internet.[57]
The Dallas Observer writes that Morgellons may be spread via the Internet and mass media, and "(i)f this is the case, then Morgellons is one in a long line of weird diseases that have swept through populations, only to disappear without a trace once public concern subsides."[19] The article draws parallels to several mass media-spread mass delusions.


(3) http://www.cdc.gov/unexplaineddermopathy/

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Neuropsychological testing revealed a substantial number of study participants who scored highly in screening tests for one or more co-existing psychiatric or addictive conditions, including depression, somatic concerns (an indicator of preoccupation with health issues), and drug use.

This comprehensive study of an unexplained apparent dermopathy demonstrated no infectious cause and no evidence of an environmental link. There was no indication that it would be helpful to perform additional testing for infectious diseases as a potential cause. Future efforts should focus on helping patients reduce their symptoms through careful attention to treatment of co-existing medical, including psychiatric conditions, that might be contributing to their symptoms.


Morgellons turned out to be a case of mass internet-diagnosis crazy.
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CTrees



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EDIT: Wow, first I missed that there was a second page of this, AND THEN I missed that this thread was started two and a half years ago! Rolled a one on that spot check, I tell ya.
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Mr Gary



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand that thing about how the surface of the sun is cooler than the space a few hundred miles from it. I'm an idiot, I know.

I also don't understand that thing about how apparently certain forms of radiation don't deplete whilst being observed. I'm an idiot, I know.

But I do have an app for Cracked.com on my phone.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This ground-breaking paper overturns decades of conventional wisdom!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A proper scientist wouldn't swear.
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