welcome to the fest
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

2012-07-24: Birtheday Cake
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Sinfest Forum Index -> Sinfest
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Ronald



Joined: 17 Sep 2007
Posts: 3199

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd way rather the strip go back to having Slick and 'Nique themselves again interacting as pals -- they arguably have more in common now than they used to -- but so it goes. The way things were when one started reading always seem like the good old days, don't they? Wink

===


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=4139

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=4140

Maybe Pebbles should keep her pal away from bakeries in the future...

If we're going to be revisiting plot points over six months old, maybe this one'll be next:


http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=4133
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
DarkMyste



Joined: 16 Sep 2010
Posts: 108

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh no...

here comes the lil e that everyone hates.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Zaryan



Joined: 28 Jun 2012
Posts: 14
Location: California

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yay he is going to remember who he is and be a hateful jerk again, as I always liked him to be Very Happy
DarkMyste wrote:
oh no...

here comes the lil e that everyone hates.

People don't like evil lil' E? since when?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Miss Magenta



Joined: 09 Jun 2011
Posts: 1854
Location: im probably asleep right now

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think he's going to remember who he is FULLY, and if he were to I don't think he's going to go back to the jerk he used to be. Even if he regains his memories completely, he'd still have the memories of feeling terrible for BEING terrible. When you realize some part of you is terrible in ways that makes you feel bad - you generally do not go back to behaving the way you used to. All that happened is that the cake triggered him remembering - as far as we know - only the birthday incident. He only remembers the party he wanted and never got, and remembers the pain he felt. There is no implication that he's remembering the whole story of his life. Maybe he already knows from reading a journal or something and we just don't know it. Literally all that we're seeing is WOW HE GOT TRIGGERED BY CAKE. HE'S CRYING. HE'S CRYING BECAUSE OF CAKE.

And when DarkMyste said "here comes the Li'l E that everyone hates," I think that he means that he too believes Li'l E will revert to his jerkish ways - and will go back to being that one jerk no one in canon happened to really like that much. I don't think anyone actually hated Li'l E, though... except maybe Seymour... but even then, Seymour had enough positive feelings for him to be confused as to what their relationship was...
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
bitflipper



Joined: 09 Jul 2011
Posts: 728
Location: Here and Now

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hydra wrote:
Forget the Sisterhood for a bit.

Develop Lil E and his mum.


Wow. Apparently, absolutely anything can now be a Sisterhood reference. This observation brought to you by Pugilists Opposed to Deceased Equines.
_________________
I am only a somewhat arbitrary sequence of raised and lowered voltages to which your mind insists upon assigning meaning
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Mikewee777



Joined: 16 Nov 2007
Posts: 529
Location: 0_0

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe this is a reference to the fact that he invited everyone to his birthday party and no one came. If you are giggling at that other sentence, you are nasty and need a cold shower.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Flavius Maximus



Joined: 07 May 2011
Posts: 799
Location: The Wrong side of the Reality Zone Sign

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Lily won't revert He and Pebbles are friends now and that will make the difference.

Then they will go on a quest to rescue Lily's mom because she was taken away and Lily's memory was wiped to make him forget. now he remembers it all!!!

God, that would be so cool Cool
_________________
Awesome Happens
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Hydra



Joined: 25 Jan 2012
Posts: 104

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wingcap wrote:
Hydra wrote:
Forget the Sisterhood for a bit.

Develop Lil E and his mum.

Yes yes yes.
Then crush the sisterhood with an Iron Fist and go back to a real job. Like being a father, D, ya big douche.


bitflipper wrote:
Hydra wrote:
Forget the Sisterhood for a bit.

Develop Lil E and his mum.


Wow. Apparently, absolutely anything can now be a Sisterhood reference. This observation brought to you by Pugilists Opposed to Deceased Equines.


> implying that the exploration of what happened to "Lilith" and why Lil E was raised without knowing his mother or father isn't integral to the Sisterhood storyline
> implying any attempt to continue the Sisterhood storyline without exploring the Devil's motives for his own misogyny isn't anything but beating a dead horse

Enough guessing about why the Devil loves strip clubs. We need to know why and how he thinks this will make society better / help others avoid the mistakes he made with "Lilith. We could even find out little miss Trike Girl's own motives for her actions (beyond mere disagreement; the origin of her personal struggle, if you will).

In some ways, Tat is venturing into not abiding by the "Show, Don't Tell" rule. It is pointless for him to spend several comics a week telling us that feminism is good and stereotypes/pornography/sexualization/patriarchy/gender inequality are bad. Because we've all at least been exposed to that message at some point in our lives. Even if some choir members enjoy being preached to, it is still a pointless exercise. You know what feminism is, I know what feminism is, and everybody else knows what feminism is. This isn't 1834.

Exploring feminist themes through a storyline is a different beast entirely. You have to SHOW, not merely tell. Show us why the Devil thinks the way he does. Show us his past. Show the profound effects his previous decisions had on his family. Show the effects his current decisions has on society (a bunch of devil strippers walking around remains an exploitation of the female form, not Tat making some compelling point). Show us the Sisterhood being productive (the logging was a good start, but it should end there). Show us some sort of reaction by the Devil against the Sisterhood.

Have a storyline with themes. Don't expect a series of themes to be an acceptable substitute for a story.
_________________
"Cada uno es como Dios le hizo, y aśn peor muchas veces."
- Miguel de Cervantes
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Monkey Mcdermott



Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 3315

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you actually FOLLOWED the feminism discussions Hydra?

Because if you have like...at all it should be apparent to you that not everybody knows what feminism is.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ShadowCell



Joined: 03 Aug 2008
Posts: 6059
Location: California

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

besides which, he's the Devil, he's probably the only character whose evil you don't have to justify with Freudian excuses and philosophical veneers and shit
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Tinrac



Joined: 07 Jun 2012
Posts: 38
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:43 am    Post subject: memory Reply with quote

He`ll get his memory back eventually. And I bet his memory cure is something thats lying in his backpack just waiting to be accidentally triggered. (If I were any more precise in my wording, everyone would know what I`m talking about ) Razz
_________________
And lo, therefore was the shitstorm summoned from the Abysses of False Civility in which it had briefly hidden, and there was much torment and despair.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Succubus1982



Joined: 07 Oct 2009
Posts: 919
Location: England

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crying or Very sad The eeeeeeeeeeeeeeyes! Puppydog eyes have never had so much power. Wonder who would win in a face-off. Blue's danger-glare of doom or Lil'E's puppydog eyes of gloom. I suppose depends on the target. Big D would probably not think much of the new Lil'E (if he ever did think much of the old one) and so he would be immune to such tactics. Then again he'd probably be immune to Blue's glares too (not that she'd ever dare turn them on the boss). Hm I had a point somewhere, but I seem to have lost it. Oh well...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mouse



Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 17207
Location: under the bed

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hydra wrote:

Enough guessing about why the Devil loves strip clubs. We need to know why and how he thinks this will make society better


dude.....he's the devil. the last thing he wants is to make society better.
_________________
aka: neverscared!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Adyon



Joined: 27 May 2012
Posts: 1162
Location: Behind my Cintiq

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought it was obvious for ages...The devil likes chaos and hates do-gooders. He enjoys controlling others. He's oblivious to the point Jesus and Buddah were having fun playing after losing a race, while he was brooding up in his mansion after winning. He's comical about his hatred, but it doesn't change the fact that it's true.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Hydra



Joined: 25 Jan 2012
Posts: 104

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mouse wrote:
Hydra wrote:

Enough guessing about why the Devil loves strip clubs. We need to know why and how he thinks this will make society better


dude.....he's the devil. the last thing he wants is to make society better.


ShadowCell wrote:
besides which, he's the Devil, he's probably the only character whose evil you don't have to justify with Freudian excuses and philosophical veneers and shit


A man doesn't go from being a family man to a sociopath without something happening in between the two.

He thinks what he is doing is justified. He thinks God is wrong and he is right.
"Evil" is just a word for beliefs you don't agree with.
_________________
"Cada uno es como Dios le hizo, y aśn peor muchas veces."
- Miguel de Cervantes
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Sinfest Forum Index -> Sinfest All times are GMT
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Page 2 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group