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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eureka00 wrote:
http://kotaku.com/5963528/heres-a-devastating-account-of-the-crap-women-in-the-games-business-have-to-deal-with-in-2012


Just going to reiterate what one commenter said about one of the twitter posts though:

Twitter Post wrote:
because there's not enough investment in AAA games about something other than war, cowboys, football, cars. sorry, but it's true


With the budget of AAA games, the developers are a lot less likely to take chances. They know the Call of Duty: MXII Gray Ops Super Ultra NoScopes edition will sell and has a pretty much guaranteed fanbase from previous games. Ditto for the Battlefield franchise, Need for Speed, Forza, Gran Turismo, Halo, Bioshock, Madden, etc. This is why games from independent studios tend to be more outside-the-box as far as mechanics and content goes.

I don't like most AAA games (Bioshock and Gran Turismo are exceptions), because they tend to be dumbed down sequels that are exactly the same as their predecessors. But that's not sexism. That's hedging your bets that the money you put into development will pay off by making games that you know will sell, thrill-a-minute shooters and sports games with an already dedicated fanbase due to years of releases.

Also, what's to say that women don't play games that involve sports, war, cowboys and cars? I know women who play sports and shooting games religiously.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not sexism, it's economics => sexism

If we pretend women don't play those AAA games (they do), and if someone claims nobody wants to invest in AAA games that do appeal to women gamers, then that's sexism. It's sexism on part of the investors, regardless if they cover it up with return-on-investment bullshit. It's sexism because it doesn't even make any sense, because women do game and games aimed at them (too) are a huge gap in the market - a perfect investment opportunity.

It's also complete and utter bullshit because there are plenty of AAA games that aren't about war, cowboys, football and cars.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's be honest though: Madden: Dawn of Warcowboy Theft Auto would be fucking awesome
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the one football game where, if Ndamukong Suh kicks you in the nuts, you can launch grenades at him
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam wrote:
Let's be honest though: Madden: Dawn of Warcowboy Theft Auto would be fucking awesome

my male penis is getting hard just thinking about it
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's cissexist, check your privilege

oh also guess where's still a miserable shithole

http://www.news.com.au/world/wife-forced-to-remarry-hubbie-who-threw-acid-on-her/story-fndir2ev-1226525490341
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See, now THAT is sanctity of marriage! None of this wishy-washy-you-can-get-a-divorce stuff!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure how I feel about this article yet, other than that I feel it is extraordinarily relevant to the atmosphere in the comics sub-forum as of late.

It's about how emotional men can get.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't "impulse shopping" also a result of using emotions over rational thought? I'm pretty sure that'd be one more in the "men showing" emotions column.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh well shit, if that counts then I'm still a big ol' pile of emotions.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, but if you were a guy, you'd statistically more likely to be engaging in even more impulse buying, so it's no biggie.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got worried at Mansplaining (social justice warrior bingo power word) but my fears were unfounded and the article is sound in explaining a general concept.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of which.

Sam wrote:
that's cissexist, check your privilege


Bingo.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are some things I read in my paper today, which I thought were relevant to The Other Thread:

Every week, 56 rapes and 5 group-rapes occur in Belgium. Worldwide (I think), only 4% of the perpetrators are tried and convicted, according to the UN. According to the justice department, this is one in three in Belgium. Even though local hospitals are filling up with boxes of swabs from rape tests, two thirds of these are never analysed. This is due to the budget cuts the justice department is pushing through, which make analysing every sample impossible. Even though Belgium has a DNA-database, these samples are rarely if ever entered into it. This is partially due to the fact that only people who are convicted of five years or more jailtime get entered into the database - and you can see the problem right there. Not only are the samples taken from rape victims ignored, but seeing as most perpetrators get off with a couple of years suspended jailtime, that database is staying empty.

Fuck.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Willem wrote:
Here are some things I read in my paper today, which I thought were relevant to The Other Thread:

Every week, 56 rapes and 5 group-rapes occur in Belgium. Worldwide (I think), only 4% of the perpetrators are tried and convicted, according to the UN. According to the justice department, this is one in three in Belgium. Even though local hospitals are filling up with boxes of swabs from rape tests, two thirds of these are never analysed. This is due to the budget cuts the justice department is pushing through, which make analysing every sample impossible. Even though Belgium has a DNA-database, these samples are rarely if ever entered into it. This is partially due to the fact that only people who are convicted of five years or more jailtime get entered into the database - and you can see the problem right there. Not only are the samples taken from rape victims ignored, but seeing as most perpetrators get off with a couple of years suspended jailtime, that database is staying empty.

Fuck.


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