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Darqcyde · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:05 am Post subject:

Dennis: Don't be an ass. Every piece of media is telling some of story.

This has nothing to do with shitty professors taking their kid to a college class with them and exposing them to a threat of contracting meningitis, you know, a disease they have you specifically get immunized for before you go to college because of the increased likelihood of getting it there.

Bitflipper: We'll never know the why unless some people really closely involved start giving all sorts of information out. Aside from the obvious of want ing to know about the kids planning this, what about the intended victim? Was she some ten year old composite of Regina George and Heather Chandler? Not likely, I'm sure, but if so why?

Also, in terms of media, especially games, I don't think ratings enforcement can be emphasized or discussed enough.

Edit: Apparently, to some people, killing lots of people is a competition i.e. it's a game:
Connecticut shooter wanted to top Norway death toll: CBS
Reuters – 2 hrs 58 mins ago

bitflipper · Joined: 09 Jul 2011 Posts: 728 Location: Here and Now

Uh, Darq, I wouldn't lean too heavily on the "information" presented in that news article. Aside from Breivik's sentence, the death toll in Newton, CT, and President Obama's talk about a new gun control initiative, the whole thing is being dismissed as "inaccurate," "not official," and as "someone's speculation regarding the case."

Unfortunately, it's already been picked up and parroted by Reuters, so, fairly quickly, we're going to have all sorts of talking heads spewing these unfounded speculations as if they were verified facts. Rolling Eyes

Sorry, Guy. FWIW, I almost fell for it, too; my first thought upon reading the headline was "Well, yeah, look at all the copycats who followed Charlie Manson or Son of Sam; this sick game's kind of endemic to those criminal nutcases who are already on the edge." Then I read the article, scratched my head at its somewhat sensationalist and unverified tone, re-read it, and realized that someone at CBS is just looking for ratings and to sell more papers.
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Darqcyde · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:32 am Post subject:

We'll never know, though, because they have to dismiss it, even if it was true. It's virulent poison, to not do so would cause greater news and lead to more copy cats. For them to admit that Lanza was motivated by such a thing would be essentially green lighting a spree of copy cats.

I honestly do hope it's speculation. But it's probably already too late, like you've said. Sadly, we are now almost guaranteed that one of the "next times" will involve someone who is trying to "go for a record" or some other twisted ideal.
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Dennis J. Squidbunny · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:29 am Post subject:

wait, wait, did you just counter bitflipper pointing out that a majority of that article is speculation by speculating that someone just wants us to think it's speculation because your speculation that Lanza was playing some sort of real life video game against Brevik (which is, and this is not speculation, a plot from Luther and I think a few Law & Orders and, this is speculation, countless other police procedurals that don't quite have a grip on video games) will cause other people, such as, you speculate, these boys plotting to murder a class mate, to turn into copycats?

you speculated, then used a speculative article to back up your speculation, and then when someone called you on its speculative nature you speculated that we will never know just how speculative it is because of they.

come on, buddy, who is they?

If you say James Cameron I will retire.
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Dogen · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 9512 Location: Bellingham, WA

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Dogen · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 9512 Location: Bellingham, WA

If you say Woodward and Bernstein I will inquire.
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Dogen · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 9512 Location: Bellingham, WA

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Dogen · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 9512 Location: Bellingham, WA

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Michael · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 10496

for whom will you admire?
or respire?
or aim higher?

Dogen · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 9512 Location: Bellingham, WA

If you say Frank's I will perspire.

That's all I got.
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trustedfaith · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:48 pm Post subject:

I just feel like people need something to blame so bad that they come up with different reasons (like video games or TV) instead of looking for ways to help prevent tragedies like that happening again. I'm sure violent video games or TV doesn't help young kids but bad parenting doesn't help either. On top of that, how we deal with and treat our mentally ill should be taken into consideration.

I am not trying to start some big debate here but you can't just blame tragic events or almost tragedies on one easy scapegoat like video games or TV. I think it's a combination of issues going on and we should be addressing all of them.

Not to mention I don't understand why we're discussing things that someone might have said to someone else about something until it's confirmed that that indeed did happen.
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WheelsOfConfusion · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 11219 Location: Unknown Kaddath

Seriously, if violence and casual disregard for human life is so prevalent in the media and does desensitize otherwise normal people to the extent that they seriously entertain the idea of killing, shit like this would be the norm and not the exception. In reality violence has actually gone down in the US even as media depictions of it, and sales of unapologetically violent games especially, have gone straight up.

Darqcyde · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:57 pm Post subject:

Dennis J. Squidbunny · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:27 pm Post subject:

ITT: DARQ BLAMES ATTEMPTED MURDER PLOT BY TEN YEAR OLDS ON ICE T AND RICHARD BELZER.
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