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2013-02-24: Fierce mode
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fritterdonut



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These responses confirm that all that time I spent googling was indeed time well spent.

Now I'm wondering what the A+ forum he mentions is.
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Xanthë



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’m afraid I’m in a position to answer that, as I’ve had the considerable displeasure of running into Guest, aka PG, aka Pitchguest, elsewhere on the web. The A+ forums are a niche atheist group who are committed to social justice issues: pro women’s rights, pro LGBT rights, anti racism, etc. The group split apart because of the continuing sexual harassment, bullying, and cyber-stalking which is being conducted against overtly feminist women (as well as some men) within the online atheist and skeptic communities, a situation which blew up in July 2011 (do a search on the name Rebecca Watson). As such, it’s been under attack by raiding parties from various other forums and asshole trolls, including the previously mentioned Slymepit.

The Slymepit is basically headquarters or home base for the douchebags running the cyber-stalking and harassment. It used to be hosted on a scienceblog, ERV, until National Geographic took fright at the disgusting content of the blog threads, and so they shifted to a phpBB forum elsewhere. They regularly screencap threads and comments, write defamatory postings about their enemies who they Photoshop and refer to by juvenile toilet-humour nicknames, all to obsessively hate wank over them. They regularly turn up to troll and colonise blog threads, run hashtag and identity squatting harassment campaigns on Twitter, and so on. Pitchguest, as he is known there, or sometimes just PG when he goes trolling the blogs, is a member of the gang over there: they’re a bunch of obsessed sexist, racist, transphobic douchebags, and he’s a notorious, lying scumbucket. The phrase ‘haters gonna hate’ really fails to do justice.

Anyway, if you go looking and find someone called Xanthë in the atheist world — c’est moi. I didn’t pick this name because I’m a fan of Xanthe the Sinfest character, it’s because it’s the pseud I’m already known by.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Verrrrrrry interesting.

As I'm sure someone who has been here longer than I have can probably explain better, Guest has a reputation here as a poster that everyone likes to either avoid or berate.
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Dennis J. Squidbunny



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh, guest. I feel like my idiot son has joined an idiot gang, of idiots.

WE'RE NOT ANGRY, GUEST, WE'RE JUST DISAPPOINTED.

He really didn't used to be like this -- he was an idiot, sure, but only of the magnitude of Darqcyde: he's a good guy, who frequently says goofball things and occasional (oddly enough, usually over James Cameron) will explode and obsessively argue a dingbat point all over the forum, like a fucking banana.

But ever since he fell in with these fucking 'misandry' horse shitters, he's just gone so horribly bung and wrong. He's a fucking jerk bully, and he won't listen to reason, and the thing is, I can't even pinpoint the part where he just straight up started hating women.

Like, he's always been an argumentative shitbag, but the reddit child porn explosion and increasing prevalence of dudebros made him start arguing less because he just likes to start fights and more because he has started nurturing a deep seeded hatred of women.

FUCK -- can we get him into rehab or a fucking intervention or something?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sad part is that he just doesn't get it. In theory, he seems to support equality, seems to be against enforced gender roles, etc. But he seems to think that all those problems have been solved already. Remember the rape culture discussion with him? Rape culture doesn't exist, because rapists are sent to jail. Differences in how women and man act, can't be cultural factors, must be biological. etc, etc. I don't even think he's that bad of a guy, but he is infuriatingly ignorant.

(Maybe I'm being to kind for him, the reddit thing seemed to be wilful ignorance at times.)
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Monkey Mcdermott



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a less forgiving note, he's always been a self absorbed little shit. Remember basically every post about his "crazy" mom who always flew off the handle for no reason?

They all read like some sort of 1800's diagnosis of hysteria.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dennis J. Squidbunny wrote:

But ever since he fell in with these fucking 'misandry' horse shitters, he's just gone so horribly bung and wrong. He's a fucking jerk bully, and he won't listen to reason, and the thing is, I can't even pinpoint the part where he just straight up started hating women.


this is what i was thinking - he's always been an argumentative bully, but it seemed more out of ignorance and frustration than hate. so i was kinda thinking that 'pitchguest' was just a change similar-seeming name, couldn't be _our_ guest....but it guess it is.

sorta puts a whole new light on his relationship with his mother. one wonders what the woman is having to put up with.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mouse wrote:
Dennis J. Squidbunny wrote:

But ever since he fell in with these fucking 'misandry' horse shitters, he's just gone so horribly bung and wrong. He's a fucking jerk bully, and he won't listen to reason, and the thing is, I can't even pinpoint the part where he just straight up started hating women.


this is what i was thinking - he's always been an argumentative bully, but it seemed more out of ignorance and frustration than hate. so i was kinda thinking that 'pitchguest' was just a change similar-seeming name, couldn't be _our_ guest....but it guess it is.

sorta puts a whole new light on his relationship with his mother. one wonders what the woman is having to put up with.


On the flipside, while I have no knowledge of this poster, or his posts about his mother, could his hatred of women/whatever grown *out* of his relationship with his mother? Parents do have a pretty big impact on kids outlooks...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guest actually posted here about Atheist+, which is how i came to know about it in the first place. and his whining about it was pretty much what ended my interest in atheism.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Felgraf wrote:
mouse wrote:
Dennis J. Squidbunny wrote:

But ever since he fell in with these fucking 'misandry' horse shitters, he's just gone so horribly bung and wrong. He's a fucking jerk bully, and he won't listen to reason, and the thing is, I can't even pinpoint the part where he just straight up started hating women.


this is what i was thinking - he's always been an argumentative bully, but it seemed more out of ignorance and frustration than hate. so i was kinda thinking that 'pitchguest' was just a change similar-seeming name, couldn't be _our_ guest....but it guess it is.

sorta puts a whole new light on his relationship with his mother. one wonders what the woman is having to put up with.


On the flipside, while I have no knowledge of this poster, or his posts about his mother, could his hatred of women/whatever grown *out* of his relationship with his mother? Parents do have a pretty big impact on kids outlooks...

At the same time, it makes you wonder what his dad is like.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkey Mcdermott wrote:
hahaha oh my god, I went over to that forum to browse around. Now I see where all the dudebros came here from!

Guest whines there, intellectual midgets from that site come here to see what he's blathering about and act like they've got more of a chance at showing the "fainting couch brigade" the light.


I am reading that forum and one of the funniest things is one guy started a kickstarter for the purpose of sending him to a convention on feminism.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snorri, it seems that guy’s going principally to be a disruptive influence, or to perhaps stage ‘by accident’ some drama or incident that reflects badly on the participants, speakers, or organisers; it’s not a feminism conference per se, but the anti-feminists over there hate it because it’s highlighting secular women.

He’s like someone who’d go to a talk on hominid evolution and then get up during the Q&A and ask, “If humans evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?” I’ve hardly ever see the guy post something in good faith, even if he hadn’t written an article for one of the prominent MRA websites which the SPLC basically called a hate site. He’s basically quite selectively skeptical when it comes to sociology that doesn’t accord with his views, and a denialist about anything from the social sciences which looks into gender.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have the people on these other forums we got linked to even seen the arguments here that showed most of the forum that Guest was completely batshit fucking crazy. Like do they even know who they've picked up as an ally. Can they really comprehend who their lil' buddy is.

Like, I was there, even was a part of them, they didn't even have to be about women at all, he could even argue about Diablo 3 in a way which made it obvious he was a complete nutcase, then he took that and later I guess decided to channel it into being a sterling representative of neurotic misogynist nuttery.

I mean, maybe it's a good thing in a way? I can think of few other groups that really deserve getting stuck with him. His presence might even cause some people to really seriously reconsider what the fuck they're doing if they ended up with allies like that.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xanthë wrote:

He’s like someone who’d go to a talk on hominid evolution and then get up during the Q&A and ask, “If humans evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?”


i imagine anyone stupid enough to do this would get totally humiliated by the answers he would get (it's not like evolutionists haven't heard this and 1000 other questions like it many many times before). one would almost hope he would get to this conference and get similarly humiliated.

or at least pantsed. that would be about the level of response he would deserve.

but yeah, i understand your worry that he will get nasty.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mouse wrote:
sorta puts a whole new light on his relationship with his mother. one wonders what the woman is having to put up with.


Guest's mother was likely crazy as all get-out and a terrible parent who as at dead minimum emotionally abusive.

She is probably also primarily responsible for Guest's legitimate mental issues.

You could probably also hypothesize that Guest's hatred for her was the catalyst for his emergent misogyny.

So hey, tragedy all around.
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