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mouse · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 15450 Location: under the bed

they should have lined those two figures up more carefully, makes it look like peak income was at the bottom of the stock market, while in fact it looks like it coincided with the earlier stock market peak, and a lot of the drop happened at the same time as the stock market drop. since 2009, though, things are clearly going in different directions.
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Him · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 3955 Location: Strange planet

"To his supporters and those implanted with his mind-controlling Chavismo-chips, Chávez was Emmanuel, the reborn Christ. To his detractors, he was Double Hitler. As ever, the truth is somewhere in the middle – while he was certainly born, he was not Christ; and while there was only one of him, he was most definitely Hitler."
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ShadowCell · Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Posts: 5253 Location: California

speaking of which, can someone explain to me why communists seem to always feel the need to publicly display the embalmed bodies of their dead leaders?

WheelsOfConfusion · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 11138 Location: Unknown Kaddath

It's not like their bodies are their own property.

Him · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 3955 Location: Strange planet

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Him · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 3955 Location: Strange planet

Why Did the US Government and Big Oil Hate Chavez?
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bitflipper · Joined: 09 Jul 2011 Posts: 728 Location: Here and Now

Wow, Him, you managed to dig up a news source that is not only more biased than Fox or CNN, but that also proudly proclaims that it expects itself to be biased in its own mission statement!

"We all have interests. We recognize that bias will affect the elements in a story we choose to highlight, the facts we consider important and the sources we decide to trust. To be human is to have bias."

I suppose you could have dug up a Venezuelan state-sponsored news article if you wanted something even more Chavez-friendly.
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CTrees · Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 3613

Him's talented like that.
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CTrees · Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 3613

The day before Bloomberg's ban on high capacity sodas was set to go into effect, the courts struck it down. Hahaha. If there were 7-elevens in my state, I'd have a celebratory Big Gulp.
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Snorri · Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:24 am Post subject:

Him · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 3955 Location: Strange planet

bitflipper · Joined: 09 Jul 2011 Posts: 728 Location: Here and Now

Judge approves use of 'truth serum' on accused Aurora shooter James Holmes

Not trying to defend the guy (actually, I couldn't even sit on his jury if called; I'm biased in this case), but I have significant doubts about the validity of any testimony obtained through the use of psychoactive substances. To say nothing about the Fifth Amendment issues mentioned in the article.
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mouse · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 15450 Location: under the bed

that sounds really odd. they say that this would be used by the prosecutors to question him if he pleads not guilty by reason of insanity. but he can't be questioned unless his defense team puts him on the stand, can he? it would be a fifth amendment issue if he was forced to testify in his own trial. and why would the defense put him on the stand? they would do a lot better, i would think, putting medical experts and people who knew holmes at the time of the shooting, because an insanity defense is based on whether or not the defendant was capable of distinguishing between right and wrong at the time of the crime.

wish the article had been more explicit about who asked for the ruling, and why.
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fritterdonut · Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:05 am Post subject:

I thought we gave up on truth serums after MKULTRA turned out to be a giant illegal fraud that never actually turned one up in about 20 years of testing.

Also being forced to submit to a drugged interrogation seems like something that would be illegal on a whole bunch of levels. Considering they say it would "most likely be a short-acting barbiturate, like sodium amytal", this sounds less like a truth serum and more of them trying to get him drugged enough that he'll agree with just about anything they state. There's a reason why they are classed as sedatives, hypnotics, and anxiolytics.

I mean, the guy's scum, and there isn't a doubt he did it. but at the same time:

Felgraf · Joined: 10 Jul 2012 Posts: 279

Holy crap, they picked a Jesuit to be the new pope. I'm not a catholic, but I *did* go to a jesuit college and... that's an encouraging sign.

*REALLY* hoping it's one of the more liberal jesuits. This could actually signal some serious, SERIOUS reform in the church...
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