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[Him]

[ShadowCell]

[CTrees]

Yeah... from what I've read thus far, he seems to be a hard-line conservative. Fantastic

I, too, was hoping for a liberal. Seems the college of cardinals had enough of people like John Paul II trying to modernize the church.
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[mouse]

wow - they chose one already? isn't this only the first day of voting?

but i'm not wildly astonished that they picked a conservative. practically all the cardinals were appointed by either benedict or john paul, and they weren't exactly raging liberals.

well, i guess they can hope picking a latin american pope will make up for not picking one that cares about the role of women in the church, child abuse, human rights abuses.... it's like the religious version of the republican party, in a few years they will be wondering why they are still losing members. "but we've got hispanics in the leadership!"
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[stripeypants]

Maybe they can all get super orange tans. That'll fix it.

[Arc Tempest]

I do find it amusing that the first South American Pope is whiter than me.
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[Sam]

there was a zero percent chance that they weren't going to pick an archconservative new pope. There's a reason for this; anyone who makes it up to those tiers of the church has been selected by a process which effectively tests for doctrinal adherences which are effectively mega-conservative.

You have to be one of the more conservative members of the church to get selected to go to the seminary. You have to be one of the more conservative priests to become a bishop. You have to be one of the more conservative bishops to become a Cardinal. So, even the most liberal Cardinal (which Bergoglio was not--he was in the middle third somewhere, from what I can tell) is pretty damned conservative. Considering that the church's seminary candidates already represent a body of people who are effectively pretty conservative anyway, you're talking about an end product that produces this same-as-the-old-boss swaggering shit-eating fucknut:

[DeD CHiKn]

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[Michael]

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[Yinello]

Unless they let women have a higher rank beyond head sister in church, I doubt there will be anything else except conservative cardinals.
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[mouse]

i'm just reading a new yorker article on benedict (here, if you can see it). i'm not catholic, so i haven't been worried too much by what the pope does. but it sounds like benedict had some ....interesting ideas for a religious leader:

[Mizike]

The Steubenville verdict just came in: guilty.

Even though this should have been obvious, I'm a bit relieved.
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[John in Tronna]

[quote="mouse"

but if you believe that only the people in your church are saved....isn't that pretty much the same as saying most of humanity can go to hell, for all of him? again, not a catholic, so i don't know what the view is on the fate of non-catholics....but still.
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Feeneyites* believe that...I call them "Westboro Catholics"

I was taught by Jesuits. As for Catholics being saved and non-Catholics being damned, I was directed to the parable of the man with two sons, both of whom he told to go do work in the fields. The first says "Yes, Father" but then buggers off to the agora or Renfair or whatever instead. The second says, "No, I won't" but goes and works in the field anyway. Jesus posed the question, which son did the will of the Father? i.e. Talk is cheap, actions speak louder than words.

So a non-believer who does good is ahead in the line -- so to speak -- than a believer who doesn't.

Side note -- is the Church ready for an infallible Jesuit?


*So does Mel "My Dad says I'm annulled" Gibson, but that's a whole different bag of batshit.
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