Feminism because why not make a thread for it?

Thy Brilliance · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 3524 Location: Relative

I call them reporters.

By the way, in order to refuse to have your picture taken, someone needs to ask you for it first.

Monkey Mcdermott · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 3271

And people who don't are either the press, or creepers.
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Thy Brilliance · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 3524 Location: Relative

They are one and the same.

mouse · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 17040 Location: under the bed

oh hell, i've already ruined the day - why not engage with thy?

it's because there are pictures and there are pictures, thy. there is the picture that you take to capture their whole costume, or them in the costume, or their impersonation of the character. and there is the picture that you take to capture their cleavage, or their underwear, or whatever sexy, sexy fantasy you have about them.

i suspect most cosplayers wouldn't mind the first kind of picture, whether or not they are asked (and why wouldn't you ask to take that picture? they will probably pose for you, and you get an even better shot).

most humans _do_ mind the second kind of picture. which is why the people who want to take them will try to take them without asking. because they are doing something skeezy.

now maybe there are people who are ok with you taking skeezy pictures of them. if you ask, you find out and you all get into it. or, you know, someone tells you that they don't want you to take skeezy pictures of them, and then you don't take the picture. because that is showing some respect for that person's feelings.

and by the way, reporters absolutely do need to get your permission, and also your name, because if they publish your picture without your permission, they can get sued.
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Thy Brilliance · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 3524 Location: Relative

The thing about reporters is that even if they ask for permission to take your picture, you have no way of consenting to what they write about you.

Reporters could give a shit about your feelings when they present you as they wish to fit their agenda.

Hence, I would be far more bothered by reporters, than by the silly harmless losers you know as creeps.

Dogen · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 10593 Location: Bellingham, WA

A professional photographer will almost always ask your permission if they want to take a picture of just you, and if they're not from a news agency (which can print photos taken in public under editorial license) and intend to use the image commercially they'll have a model release form handy. If a venue is open to the public and photography isn't expressly prohibited (with signage), then anyone can legally take your picture under most circumstances. They can't use a hidden camera to shoot up your skirt, or otherwise invade expectations of privacy, but they can snap a picture of you in your costume. The general rule in a public space is "if you can see it you can shoot it."

But the legal issue is totally divorced from the ethical one. You may not be required to get consent to take pictures at a con, but any decent human being will.
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mouse · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 17040 Location: under the bed

but at least you know there is a chance a picture of you will be showing up in the paper.

please note that the conversation is about _photographs_.

(that's to thy, by the way. damn you, dogen, sneaking in again! with your lightening posting skills and that.)
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Thy Brilliance · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 3524 Location: Relative

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ShadowCell · Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Posts: 6020 Location: California

are you stoned?

Thy Brilliance · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 3524 Location: Relative

No, and I never will be.

Dogen · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 10593 Location: Bellingham, WA

stripeypants · Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:30 am Post subject:

Some people are ashamed. Some people have body issues. Seriously. Some people have annorexia, bulimia, OCD, depression, and all sorts of other things that aren't necessarily related - except that these things can factor into someone not wanting to be photographed without their permission.

Why is the need of a photographer so huge that they can't take a moment to ask permission? It's different when the person is in the background, but if they are the subject of a piece, it is a good thing to ask them first.
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Felgraf · Joined: 10 Jul 2012 Posts: 703