2013-05-31: Misogyny

stripeypants · Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 9:13 am Post subject:

I worry for the spines of people who bend over backwards so often to misinterpret these comics. They complain that Tat has changed and won't get off this feminist tack - butthen do everything to prove that actually Tat is not writing anything supporting feminist ideals.

Go see some massage therapists, please. That shit will damage your lower back.
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Istancow · Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 9:23 am Post subject:

Something important needs to happen in Slick's life that will lead to genuine character development.
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stripeypants · Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 9:27 am Post subject:

In general, people argue as if Tat is actually not saying misogyny exists ad is bad - which is something that was said here (Ie: Tat oud be writing about anything, ot jut misogyny, therefore this strip is not about misogyny.)

Tat wrote misogyny over and over and over. How much more learly could he make it this trip is about misogyny?
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Istancow · Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 10:28 am Post subject:

That sounds familiar. I have a lot of problems with consistency. I tend to be weak and wishy-washy and just sort of backtrack all the time. Every time I say something, I find myself wanting to unsay it very quickly. That's sort of why I avoid any serious discussion on this forum.
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mouse · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 20691 Location: under the bed

i figured that slick was fine with the misogyny, because he wasn't really seeing it, and certainly not seeing it as hurting any individual. but the sign he saw as an attack on _him_, which of course is just awful.

i think slick can't see himself as a misogynist, because clearly he doesn't hate women - he loves women! he wants them to love him! he wants to be with them and in them and around them and..... and he really doesn't get that the whole playboy women-exist-to-satisfy-me thing really is, ultimately, based on a hatred of women.
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Alpha Aim · Joined: 19 Nov 2012 Posts: 118

The hell?

Why?
*sigh*
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mouse · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 20691 Location: under the bed

why what?
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Alpha Aim · Joined: 19 Nov 2012 Posts: 118

I'm confused by this strip.
What is going through Slick's mind?
Why is he acting like that?
Why that specific reaction?

So much why....
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mouse · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 20691 Location: under the bed

well.....that's sorta what we've been talking about in the last 3 pages.
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TheRiver · Joined: 14 May 2013 Posts: 15

I think Sinfest has, over the years, developed into two separate-but-still-the-same entities. One is the relatively simple, gag-a-day strip that has since day one revolved around the lovable and generally well meaning, but also selfish, misguided, opportunistic, oblivious, and (of course) misogynist Slick. At the end of the day, Garfield will always eat the lasagna, Charlie Brown will always miss the football, Calvin will always avoid his homework, and Slick will always indulge in...whatever. It wouldn't be the same Sinfest if he didn't.

Then there's the other Sinfest, which has introduced and developed endearing characters, with story arcs that span weeks. There, we (some of us anyway) root for Slick--he's trying! He's learning! His heart's in the right place, even if he's not quite there! If he wanted to, Tat could turn Sinfest into a redemption story for Slick. He's a main character, and not really a bad one, so we want to see him do well, and that means he needs to learn the right lessons.

Which is why it can be so jolting to see Slick appear to take one step forward and two steps back. It seems to me that we're seeing Slick in a character-developing story, and then the next day, Slick in a single gag comic strip. I think that's the sort of thing going on here.

From my perspective, it looks like there's nothing particularly meaningful about this strip: Slick joyously, maybe even unknowingly, partakes in his favorite misogynist pastimes, only to cry "Hater!" when someone points it out. Hilarity ensues! The gag could have been driven home even more if Squig was in one panel, maybe D-Man in another, and the three of them together in the last, shocked and appalled at the oppression they suffer under this single lil'Sis.

Also,

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Monkey Mcdermott · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 3352

That goes for crayven and arthain as well.
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tricksterson · Joined: 18 Aug 2012 Posts: 504

I have to wonder if this strip is even canon since it shows Slick frolicking with the Illuminati drones with whom his relationship has always been hostile
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