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mouse

Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 21162 Location: under the bed
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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Zhuinden wrote: |
What I'm not sure about is why Lil'E currently believes that no one loves him, despite how he's always hanging out with Lily - because although Ennis's points stand, it bothers me that he desires MORE friends than he has, and somewhat doesn't value as much what he has now. Otherwise, he wouldn't feel so lonely. |
well, it's not an unusual state for a human to miss what he's got because he's looking so hard for something else.
but i'm sure pebbles will pop up pretty soon to cheer him up, whether he recognizes she loves him or not.
although of course she might not actually love him, but be more the sort of person who is happy to be with whoever she's with, doing whatever she is doing. but she's been hanging out with him long enough that he must be special to her. or else she would have wandered off with someone else. _________________ aka: neverscared!
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Leohan

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stripeypants

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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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Ennis said Tat realized it, so while you can argue that Tat is mistaken, that doesn't mean Ennis is wrong in recognizing Tat's current view. _________________ ::lesser crisis mode::
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Theia

Joined: 31 May 2013 Posts: 90 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:05 am Post subject: |
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I feel like Leohan is saying that he disagrees with the implication of Ennis's statement (the word realised implying that the current belief is the true or correct one). Like, you would say "I realized that 1+1=2" but probably not "I realized that 1+1=4"
...Unless you still believed that 1+1=4.
EDIT: The "you" being impersonal, of course. |
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Leohan

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Istancow

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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:31 am Post subject: |
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I kinda want to ship Lil'E and Pebbles.
But I also kinda want to ship Lil'E and Seymour.
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Miss Magenta

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Yorick

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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:24 am Post subject: |
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mouse wrote: | well, it's not an unusual state for a human to miss what he's got because he's looking so hard for something else. |
*steals* |
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Istancow

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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:58 am Post subject: |
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2TP _________________ Good day, good people! |
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tricksterson
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Istancow wrote: | I kinda want to ship Lil'E and Pebbles.
But I also kinda want to ship Lil'E and Seymour.
HALP WAT IS OTP | Why not ship all three? Since Seymours One True Crush is Jesus I prefer Pebbles/Lily but I don't get fanatic about my ships. _________________ I aim to misbehave |
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Ennis

Joined: 08 Jun 2013 Posts: 992 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Getting back on topic a little, I think Lil'E's opinion of himself is definitely affected by everything he's found out about the pre-Lethe him. He has a (drawn) picture of him killing angels, which he's now been shown to love. Then other things showing him being an arsehole, and then being yelled at when he went on that forum. Pretty much everything he's come across points to him being a terrible person, even if he doesn't remember it. In fact it's worse because he has to somehow reconcile the fact that present-Lily finds these things atrocious, but past-Lil'E revelled in them. Imagine waking up tomorrow with hardly any knowledge about yourself and then finding out you, I don't know, tortured people for fun. You'd be wondering how you became that way, and would probably expect that those who knew what you did to treat you accordingly, even though it would hurt present-innocent-you. Maybe that's another reason Lily doesn't think that Pebbles "counts" is that she isn't properly aware of all that stuff. She actually had to ask if being a devil-worshipper was bad.
Also I feel really stupid, I only just realised Pebbles was called Pebbles by 'Nique is because she looks sort of like a grown-up version of Pebbles from the Flintstones. |
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