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WheelsOfConfusion



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darqcyde wrote:
Samsally wrote:
Eh... I've donated to a few kickstarters now, and not a single one of them was because I saw it on kickstarter's front page first.

(Most of 'em were for artists I was already following on tumblr or twitter.)


Ok I've napped and sobered up a bit.

All I'm really asking for is the ability to readily and easily browse any and all projects in need of funding.

The question is: why doesn't it have this feature.

Invoking Occam, it seems like their current setup is designed to make them seem more successful at financing people's projects then they really are.

Or maybe setting up a custom, functional and useful search/browse feature isn't easy and they're not actually self-aggrandizing jerkasses so maybe that shouldn't be the default assumption.
There's a reason so many websites just default to Google's tools for their own site-search functionality.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darqcyde wrote:

Invoking Occam, it seems like their current setup is designed to make them seem more successful at financing people's projects then they really are.


But kickstarter is not responsible for the success or promotion of the projects on kickstarter. One uses kickstarter to fund its projects not promote their projects.

It's financing platform not an advertising platform.

Kickstarter would fail if:
Failed to deliver funds to the project owner upon successful completion of poject
Failed to return funds to the investors upon unsuccessful project.

In short it's not kickstarters failure people pledge to unrealistic projects.

This is like complaining that a bank doesn't have a search engine for bank accounts of various charities.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then eliminate the "staff's picks" categories.

It's like that guy who got $30,000+ from the weird animal drawings he was doing.

I believe that project would have never achieved it's funding if not for the staff's recommendation. That kid didn't advertise really, he got lucky that the staff liked his idea.

It seems like the percentage of "staff pick's" that achieve their funding versus "non-staff picks" is quite significant. To me, it speaks of their desire for profitability versus their own words of "Kickstarterís mission is to help bring creative projects to life".

The four categories in browsing Kickstarter are: Staff Picks, Popular This Week, Recently Successfully Funded, and Recent Updates (which is replaced by Most Funded if you browse a category)

Not only that, when you browse through the Recently Updated category, it's cumbersome and displays the full updates, not just a list of projects.

And you know where this is all found , don't you? under their "discover" link



I was under the impression that this was designed to let people peruse projects. When I'm saying is that this feature could and should be better, and the most logical reason as to why it's setup the way it is would be to make Kickstarter's success rate for funding projects higher than what it is.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most Funded is kind of a weird category. I guess that equates with "popular" to some degree... though, seriously, 3Doodler?... anyway, I agree that finding projects would be easier if there were a more Amazon-like search, where you could rearrange a list by funding, by percentage funded, by time left, etc.

But it's also true that Kickstarter isn't an advertising platform and maybe if you want to get Kickstarted you shouldn't just cross your fingers and hope to become a staff pick.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd also enjoy being able to find more new projects easily instead of what is curated for me, but it is what it is. I'm not interested in most of the staff picks either.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm planning on starting a kickstarter for a comic/animation project. I've noticed quite a few people have had luck getting comics kickstarted, but they usually have a bit more to offer than whats on my hard drive currently (2 gb's of sketchy tablet drawings and a story that's been rehashed 10 times).

I hope that once I have 10 finished pages of something, I'll be confident enough to put everything up on kickstarter.

I honestly don't know if this idea I have should be a comic, cartoon, or a shitty indie game or something, but I do feel like I need to pay some other people to help me finish it, and that's where the motivation to start a kick starter comes from. Money talks right? So if I get any pledges it will be a type of confirmation that my idea appeals to someone?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samsally wrote:
(Most of 'em were for artists I was already following on tumblr or twitter.)


While not kickstarter, I think it was indeigogo, I've done the same.
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