2013-11-27: How Do You Do?

[Usagi Miyamoto]

Perhaps he needs an even closer acquaintance with how they do.
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[Ennis]

Oh man, if Pebbles, Botsy and Lil Sis teamed up... look out dudebros.

Also, I have a special level of dislike for "hello ladies". There are very few situations in which it doesn't seem at least a little skeevy. The "special" level comes in because I'm mad that someone completely ignored every aspect of my presentation and decided that I would be totes down with being included in "ladies". Excuse you I have better taste in men's fashion than you do, random dude.

[cleocatra]

[Echo]

"Essentially harmless"? Isn't this the guy from Sunday?

[Yinello]

Panel 3 is freaking cool.
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[MerchManDan]

[Echo]

[Onimaru]

Either way, they don't know what he might have done. And from all appearances in the first panel he was just being polite and friendly by saying hello as he passes them by, Tatsuya usually has very obvious facial expressions when a guy is perving on women even when they are 'just' looking, this guy didn't exhibit any of those usual traits.

That being said I don't think that Pebbles and Botsy were actually threatening the guy at all, I think they were simply responding to what they viewed as the 'question' of 'How do they do?' It was a simple demonstration, not a threat or belief they needed to attack him for something he did.

Because we all know that if Botsy believes you've done her or someone else wrong she's going to let you KNOW Either verbally (Need comic reference) Or otherwise, (Need Multiple comic references. )

[enchantedsleeper]

[wobster109]

Ehhhh. It depends on whether they are actually threatening him or just demonstrating. Demonstrating would be awesome! I don't personally believe in threatening / otherwise being mean to guys who are clueless but well-intentioned.

Obviously this means clueless about small things, like how to address a group of women. I have zero tolerance for sexual harassment. But with how to address a group of women, people prefer different things. Some people dislike being called "you guys", others dislike "ladies", and there are valid reasons to dislike both. I just don't think it's right to be harsh with someone who says "you guys" or "ladies". They're probably confused rather than evil.

And I know it gets frustrating, having the same annoying things happening over and over again, like background radiation, like a chronic buzzing that never goes away. I also know what happens when you lash out. People who, upon hearing that I'm an atheist, ask me "why are atheists always so hostile?" when I've never been hostile to them. They won't listen, they won't change their ways, and they'll come away thinking horribly unfair things, like "atheists are hostile" or "feminists are bullies".

That said, this guy definitely deserved it. All the men that 'Nique used to see, they never looked alike within the same month. He's totally the guy from Sunday. Walking along pretending like he's a friendly neighbor. Blech.

[Rune]

For the arguments as to whether or not that dude is Sunday's bomf john, and whether or not that makes him a bad, bad creeper man, this comes to mind:

http://sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=4597

Funny thing about the virgin/whore dichotomy, is it allows men to compartmentalize their treatment of women. From a privileged perspective, bomfing (metaphorically) "whores" doesn't make the man a bad man, and if he's not dealing with a woman who he would put in the "whore" compartment, (and dude there is very much putting Pebbles and Botsy in the "ladies" one here,) he probably doesn't mean them any harm and would be perfectly nice and good and genial.

So long as they stay in the "ladies/virgin" box and don't end up in the "skank/whore/unladylike" one.

Oh, whoops, that was unexpected, world is all shook up there now, isn't it?

What kind of dude the dude ultimately is might depend on whether this is a moment for waking up, and starting to see both sets of women as actual people, or if it's a moment for retrenchment and deciding that Pebbles and Botsy are the wrong sort of women, and thus can be treated badly without tarnishing his "nice guy" self-image.

Choosing the right thing there might be hard, because that would mean admitting that he's done some serious harm to -real people-. Because he absolutely has, and it's so very not okay, regardless of what his self-image is, and whatever his daily not-to-"whores" interactions are.

[Night Spade]

Ah Chivalry(AKA so-called benign chauvinism) still lingers in this day and age like a lavender scented zombie just hankering to infest its victims with the dreaded patriarchy virus, the only way you can defeat this menace is with the chainsaw of feminism and the super-soaker filled with the holy water of sexual equality.
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[tricksterson]

Pebbles I think was just innocently showing off. Not so sure about Rogue but i don't think she intended any actual harm either, just a threat display.
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[TerseRiddle]

[stripeypants]

Pebbles was smiling. I think they were just playing. Neither has a superb grasp on idioms or social customs.
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