Random News Stories of Note

[khan]

[OklahomanSun]

If you look at the videos aside from his final "retribution video" which both the police and Youtube have said was not posted at the time the police visited him, there's little indication there of any threat.

He's a weird dude, and I would agree that the police should have watched the videos, but there was a bit of a disconnect here in the communication.

The therapist called the family and the family called the police, so unfortunately there was not a moment where a mental health care professional talked to the police, and that may have been a factor in not convincing them to take the kid in for a temporary hold and evaluation.

There are areas where civil liberties often conflict. For example, most schizophrenics that go off their medicine while in outpatient or not under active medical supervision are not required to take them, and aren't able to be incarcerated or otherwise detained when they go off, yet we know historically that schizophrenic people need the medicine to interact well with the society in general.

I've watched the videos in the proper context and there are no direct threats. There's just a whole lot of anti jock and anti women anger.

You can still find them on liveleak, even though youtube has removed them.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=930_1400959321

If someone can point me realistically towards one of these videos which would have permitted the police to detain him and also to search his property, which would require a warrant, I would be grateful.

[khan]

Im not aware that Hitler said 'I'ma gonna kill me dat [insert jewish name], that man is gonns DIE!' Instead, he largely spewed generic vitriol. Like this douche.

Do you not see a parallel between using rap lyrics as evidence against someone's character and holding a person that already had an issue with the police AND was a registered firearm owner AND was making violent public diatribes? Seems like something worth putting an hour into?

I am aware almost regardless of actual actions police get heavily scrutinized over high profile shit like this, but they did skip some steps that might have helped. The police over here can generally be mentally brutal during questioning, including outright lies, but someone like him I see having a nervous collapse pretty quickly in a thorough interrogation about his 'vids'. I live in Canada though, so our system is different, but i know accused minorities plead guilty some really stupid shit in the US.

Just curious, but fo you think itd be legal for him to shout his stuff on a street corner? Lots of hate groups have public rallies, but i could see his getting shut down.

[Mindslicer]

[Monkey Mcdermott]

[Sam]

In most circumstances those videos would have been sufficient for establishing a 72 hour hold given the instruction of a health board / mandated responder report from his therapist

it is inconceivable to me that the therapist did not directly report this (if they didn't) if they had watched the videos.

There's also a question of what the cops asked him during their visit or if they were indeed adequately trained for on the spot assessment of a person reported for concerning issues like this

most aren't, and that's not their fault. Cops do not want to be the front line in mental health crisis, they're just forced to be as resources for mental health are scalped across the country.

[Dogen]

[Thy Brilliance]

[Monkey Mcdermott]

[fritterdonut]

A Femen protester has stabbed Vladimir Putin.

Or at least, a wax figure of him.


Meanwhile, Obama, Hollande, and Merkel look on in shocked silence.
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[Arc Tempest]

[Ennis]

[Monkey Mcdermott]

Why in gods name would I ever want to meet you Thy? Reading your posts is the forum equivalent of zipping up the tip of my foreskin in my jeans.
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