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WheelsOfConfusion



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's just see what's in this "bread," shall we?







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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheMightyHeracross wrote:

A shame, because I only read the comic for about a year and lurked here for that long but I quite liked it, and he acknowledged trans issues in past strips so I had remained hopeful. You probably won't see me again because I won't follow a comic that now holds trans-exclusiveness as one of its values, so I see no part in being in its fanbase (although you folks seem nice).


well, a lot of this forum has nothing to do with the comic, and i hope it will continue. i did read that exchange with you on the new forum, and i died a little inside. but if you have been lurking, you know there are a lot of trans-supportive (is that a word?) people here. even if the reason we are all here seems to have gone.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KALXAK wrote:

I promise this is will be the LAST you'll hear from me in this forum, cause I'm done with trying to confraternize with people that cleary don't like the webcomic anymore and wish it was different.


i am interested in this viewpoint that, because some people here were hoping to give tat some additional viewpoints, that they don't like the webcomic. if we didn't like the webcomic, we wouldn't care how bad it got. i guess KALXAK has me on the 'wish it was different' bit though....i for one did end up wishing it would go back to living up to its potential, instead of being stuck in a not-very-appealing rut, hating on half the human race just because of their biology (which seems odd to me - if you believe that half the human race should _not_ be demeaned/exploited/attacked for their biology, why is it ok to demonize the other half?)
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mouse wrote:
i for one did end up wishing it would go back to living up to its potential, instead of being stuck in a not-very-appealing rut, hating on half the human race just because of their biology (which seems odd to me - if you believe that half the human race should _not_ be demeaned/exploited/attacked for their biology, why is it ok to demonize the other half?)


And it's hypocritical as well. Tatsuya Ishida is a man yet he constantly shits on men. Why have only one or two good male characters? Why repeat the message 'no male allies'? I just don't get it.

Honestly I think that the comic should have less male negativity and more female positivity. He's already made it extremely clear that he thinks men are shit. Why not show some more female badassery instead?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody Important wrote:
Why not show some more female badassery instead?


What, does the Sisterhood's myriad victories over ineffectual male villains not count or something?[/sarcasm]
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh okay so maybe I'm just thick as a brick but what exactly happened here?

It seems like a second forum was created for people who are sex-negative (with regards to pornography and prostitution), and possibly TERFs (I can't really tell with the language coding I'll be honest - is "Radical Feminism" the term TERFs are using now?).

But more so I don't understand this idea that this forum is "conservative" or that everyone hates the webcomic now. I mean, I'm not a huge fan of some of the story arcs and character progression we've seen, but it seems like there's still plenty of people who like the comic in the comic subforum. And a cursory glance at the general discussion forum should pretty quickly tell you that most people are sitting pretty left-center politically, hardly "conservative". If it's true that Tat decided to make that forum to more accurately represent how he feels about the comic and how he wants people to discuss it, it kind of feels like he's just giving up on us.

And hi ChastMastr, glad to see you're back on the forums again.

What is this Discord server everyone is talking about?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fritterdonut wrote:
Uh okay so maybe I'm just thick as a brick but what exactly happened here?

It seems like a second forum was created for people who are sex-negative (with regards to pornography and prostitution), and possibly TERFs (I can't really tell with the language coding I'll be honest - is "Radical Feminism" the term TERFs are using now?).


That seems to be the case with the new forum, yes. "Radical Feminism" in this case refers to a specific type of feminism, not just "feminism that is radical," and apparently being SWERF and TERF are predominant in it. This kind of feminism is not the more recent kinds, which is what led to that strip ages ago with Squig telling the Sisterhood that they were "old-fashioned."

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But more so I don't understand this idea that this forum is "conservative" or that everyone hates the webcomic now. I mean, I'm not a huge fan of some of the story arcs and character progression we've seen, but it seems like there's still plenty of people who like the comic in the comic subforum. And a cursory glance at the general discussion forum should pretty quickly tell you that most people are sitting pretty left-center politically, hardly "conservative". If it's true that Tat decided to make that forum to more accurately represent how he feels about the comic and how he wants people to discuss it, it kind of feels like he's just giving up on us.


It's more... well, yeah, basically, it looks like Tat has decided to go all exclusionary toward those who are not his specific flavor of feminist. And the behavior on the new forum regarding trans people has been utterly abominable. Which is very, very sad.

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And hi ChastMastr, glad to see you're back on the forums again.

What is this Discord server everyone is talking about?


Thank you! <3 And the Discord server is AWESOME! Check out the thread for the link. See you there? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why can't everything be radical? And totally tubular? And why isn't everyone asking 'Where's Poochie?' Did he die on the way back to his home planet?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Gary wrote:
Why can't everything be radical? And totally tubular? And why isn't everyone asking 'Where's Poochie?' Did he die on the way back to his home planet?


Dr McNinja is no more.... Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dazedb42 wrote:
Mr Gary wrote:
Why can't everything be radical? And totally tubular? And why isn't everyone asking 'Where's Poochie?' Did he die on the way back to his home planet?


Dr McNinja is no more.... Crying or Very sad


Finally, someone who speaks sense.

A handsome Australian with chainsaws for hands, and hands for chainsaws, a man who can flame a gallah from a thousand paces, a man who can Kylie my Minogue with a single look.

In short, a filthy antipodean.

Miss you man. Hope you're well.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Gary wrote:
dazedb42 wrote:
Mr Gary wrote:
Why can't everything be radical? And totally tubular? And why isn't everyone asking 'Where's Poochie?' Did he die on the way back to his home planet?


Dr McNinja is no more.... Crying or Very sad


Finally, someone who speaks sense.

A handsome Australian with chainsaws for hands, and hands for chainsaws, a man who can flame a gallah from a thousand paces, a man who can Kylie my Minogue with a single look.

In short, a filthy antipodean.

Miss you man. Hope you're well.


I'm well you fine purveyor of salubrious beverages. I currently own 4 chainsaws in various states of disrepair and intend to use one today to create a very large pile of burnable consumables to whit i will drink copious amounts of beer as I watch the world burn.

Salud to you good xir.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi dazed!
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