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E-boy · Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:08 pm Post subject:

the point I'm making is they've already compromised.

STOP THE RESEARCH!!!!!

but by all means go ahead and destroy those embryo's you aren't using. Cuz it's not murder that way..... Oh wait.... Yes it is..... SHHHH! You're complicating things!!!!!!
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mouse · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 15450 Location: under the bed

this is why we all need to push for further research into cyborgs. if we could just replace these messy humans with cyborgs, we won't have all these moral issues.
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E-boy · Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:10 pm Post subject:

For the record Dro, you're being very polite in your arguments. I hope I haven't offended due to my differing opinion and all.

If I get angry about things sometimes it's just that. Getting angry at things and circumstances. I very rarely get angry at people.
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DigitalVirtuoso · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 66 Location: Houston, TX

Well, name one war or large military conflict that was fought following the geneva convention? It is a terrible reality, but not one war even post geneva convention adheared to it.

I find it terrible and inhumane to subject these people to such, but when one side finds it A-OKAY with exploding themselves outside a daycare, or in a mall, or in a school bus, is that not more barbarous and inhuman? I don't think they give a rats arse about a piece of paper that tells them to play by certain rules. The fact is, we are fighting an unconventional war against an opponent who refuses to play by the "rules" aka geneva convention. I don't know about you, but I completely agree with using torture in the circumstance of saving innocent lives in times of war. I think the fear there is that it will get out of control.

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Lasairfiona · Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:17 pm Post subject:

If Bush thinks that it is so wrong, why not get rid of fertility treatments too? It is the fertility treatments that are creating this controversy and these embryos. Why does he not have a problem with just destroying them while he has conniptions over research. Ya know, if he said that he would rather have a human destroyed than have them experimented on, I could actually see his point of view even if I don't agree with it.
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Natashabi · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 390 Location: Tejas

E-boy · Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:18 pm Post subject:

In war there is simply too much destructive force being unleashed to assure the safety of innocents. They've gotten better at it, but there will always be unecessary "collateral" damage.

The alternative, of course, is not fighting. Let's just let that regime commit genocide and go to sleep feeling comfortable and right not thinking about human beings we are morally culpable over because we "ALLOWED" the genocide.

Diplomacy is ideally the best approach but, alas, it doesn't always work.

I wish the world were peaceful too. I don't like the idea of killing people. I also rather don't like the idea of them killing me. Unfortunately, there are certain realities of life, and armed conflict is one of them. Ignoring those realities doesn't change them. It just puts you at greater risk.

Thus, if you must get into such a conflict it's in the world at large's best interest to keep an eye on the parties involved (something we've gotten quite good at in the information age). Accountability and the knowledge we will be held accountable for our actions may be the best single way to limit violence.
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DigitalVirtuoso · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 66 Location: Houston, TX

Lets jump a new thread instead of being Hijackers.
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mouse · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 15450 Location: under the bed

dude, this is sinfest - thread hijacking is more or less expected.
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