The Next Big Thing

[YenTheFirst]

that is assuming they did understand fully the consequences, and what they did could be called a sin.

if a child runs out into the street it is not a sin.
when he is hit by the car, it is not a punishment for running into the street.
when the parent is unable to fix the child's problems, it isn't because the parent doesn't love the child.

bad analogy, i know. but it works mostly.
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Dad said "No! You will BE KILL BY DEMONS"

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Bad analogies do not work. That's why they are judged bad. Why someone would present an analogy they personally consider bad is beyond me.

Analogies are dangerous. They are rarely done well, and they all break down. One is more likely to hurt his own argument by using one.

[YenTheFirst]

well, the format of that analogy is what I was going for.
I consider the first two lines a perfect analogy for my viewpoint

I consider the analogy 'bad' because of the last line.

in the analogy, the parent is limited, and lacks the capability to give the child health. With better medicine, this limitation may or may not be removed.

With God and Adam and Eve (or whatever), God is assumed to be all powerful. thus, He is not 'limited' by being unable to raise a dead child (which could not raise itself) the only limitation of God (which is self imposed), is that He will not force free will decisions.

thus, the analogy is bad, because the 'limitation' doesn't quite translate between the two cases.
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Dad said "No! You will BE KILL BY DEMONS"

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Another point for you believers who thrive on analogy (and they do because they can't even comprehend their own beliefs):

Trying to draw analogy between an all-powerful god and his creation and a human parent and his children is pointless and will not help your argument. Because of the critical differences between the popular defined nature of the gods and the known nature of human parents, a parallel cannot be drawn. As a parent, I don't have the ability to protect my child from physical harm, as I try to do every chance I can, 100% of the time, as the popularly-defined god can, supposedly. The dynamic MUST be different in the two types of relationships, since the gods don't protect children from harm 100% of the time.

Don't analogize gods to parents. Please.

If I could, I would protect all children from parents who would molest them. If there is a god, he does not do this, either because he can't or he won't.

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[YenTheFirst]

but do we agree that the child running into the street is not a sin,
and the following death is not a punishment,
even assuming the existence of a God who could raise the dead child?

is God's choice to refrain from raising the dead child a punishment?
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Dad said "No! You will BE KILL BY DEMONS"

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???

Is kicking Adam and Eve out of the garden NOT a punishment? Was his kicking them out an accident resulting from them being too young to see the oncoming car?

I am talking about Mellowfish's Bible here.

What is your point?

[Kibate]

[YenTheFirst]

no. no.

[Teh Digital Dragon]

Huh, when I saw this comic I wasn't thinking about the theological aspects so much as why didn't we have a "Badass of The Year" catergory in the sinnies?

[Brain.Damage]

I guess I agree with Slick, God is so silly.

[YenTheFirst]

[Brain.Damage]

It's been very... God orientated lately.

What ever happened to social observations?

And I don't just mean the romantic ones.

[Secret]

Tat got sacreligion?
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[Twister87]

A sack of religion, maybe?