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Mizike
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| andrew wrote: | I know a surprisingly large number of people who aren't going to buy it, thanks to the new levels EA has taken DRM.
For those unaware, you can't play single player without an internet connection. The game itself requires reauthentication with bnet every 30 days, and you can't save in the campaign if you're not connected to bnet. Or, well, you can, but it erases your save without warning between sessions. |
I thought StarCraft was a Blizzard thing. Why is EA a factor? I FEEL SO OLD!
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorry, not EA, Activision. |
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DeD CHiKn
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andrew
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| No monthly fee for bnet. The fees you may have heard of are via a marketplace for premium content (maps, units, etc.). |
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DeD CHiKn
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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Oh well, thats not too bad I suppose.
Im more interested in the story then the gameplay at this point. And Multiplayer has always been out of the question, I simply dont have the micromanagement skills for it.
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Arc Tempest
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:45 am Post subject: |
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| andrew wrote: | I know a surprisingly large number of people who aren't going to buy it, thanks to the new levels EA has taken DRM.
For those unaware, you can't play single player without an internet connection. The game itself requires reauthentication with bnet every 30 days, and you can't save in the campaign if you're not connected to bnet. Or, well, you can, but it erases your save without warning between sessions. |
LOL wut?
You can play single player without a connection. You can save without a connection. I've been playing it with a spotty ass connection (fuck you Comcast) and doing both of those for the past two days.
Where are you getting this?
| DeD CHiKn wrote: | | Im more interested in the story then the gameplay at this point. |
As a lore junkie I loved it. The new cinematic/briefing system feels very natural and actually gives the characters... well, character. And the ending left me gibbering slightly (in a good way).
All in all, this is a Blizzard game. I know everyone (in the SC2 forums in particular) has been screaming it's an Activision corrupted mess but I simply don't see it. Good story. Varied gameplay. Surprisingly good acting. Lots of humor and little in jokes like the Lost Viking arcade game.
Honestly my only complaint is that there is so little known about the Heart of the Swarm yet.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:22 am Post subject: |
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| Arc Tempest wrote: | | andrew wrote: | I know a surprisingly large number of people who aren't going to buy it, thanks to the new levels EA has taken DRM.
For those unaware, you can't play single player without an internet connection. The game itself requires reauthentication with bnet every 30 days, and you can't save in the campaign if you're not connected to bnet. Or, well, you can, but it erases your save without warning between sessions. |
LOL wut?
You can play single player without a connection. You can save without a connection. I've been playing it with a spotty ass connection (fuck you Comcast) and doing both of those for the past two days.
Where are you getting this?
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I don't even see why it would be a real problem. We all got interwebs anyway. Maybe there are 3 Starcraft players tucked away somewhere who don't have internet, but everyone else should really not care in the slightest. As long as it's automatic/you don't notice it's silly to give a shit.
(I don't intend to play it anyway)
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:29 am Post subject: |
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| Arc Tempest wrote: | LOL wut?
You can play single player without a connection. You can save without a connection. I've been playing it with a spotty ass connection (fuck you Comcast) and doing both of those for the past two days.
Where are you getting this? |
The dozen or so of my friends who have it, plus thousands of reviews, all of whom confirm what I said?
You obviously have a connection, because you activated the game. I never said you had to have a persistent connection the entire time you were playing.
Snorri: the argument isn't over functionality, since internet connectivity is nearly ubiquitous and in most instances, a temporary lack of connection would be a temporary hassle. It's yet another statement on DRM principles. With games like SC2 that require eternal reactivation, you never own your game, because they have all of the control over whether the game is (legally) playable or not. Blizzard has no legal obligation to let you continue using their product.
With a game like WoW, where the entire game depends on a persistent connection to a company-managed server for which you pay subscription access, this is part of the deal, much like with renting a movie.
If Blizzard went under tomorrow, I could play Starcraft as long as I had a computer that would support it. I could even play it multiplayer with friends via LAN. If Blizzard went under tomorow (or even just made an arbitrary decision), within 30 days nobody would be able to legally play Starcraft 2, single or multiplayer, in any capacity. |
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Arc Tempest
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Ah, so what you meant was that you had to activate the game before you could play the single player, not that the single player campaign itself requires an internet connection. My misunderstanding.
And do you have a source for the 30 day thing? I can't seem to find anything about it.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Arc Tempest wrote: | | Ah, so what you meant was that you had to activate the game before you could play the single player, not that the single player campaign itself requires an internet connection. My misunderstanding. |
Since no offline activation options exist, the two statements are equivalent.
| Quote: | | And do you have a source for the 30 day thing? I can't seem to find anything about it. |
I don't, since all of what I've mentioned here is passed on from what my friends and the reviews I've read have mentioned (the DRM is irrelevant to me), but googling yielded 4-5 relevant sources on the first page of results. |
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Arc Tempest
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| andrew wrote: | | Since no offline activation options exist, the two statements are equivalent. |
True, but the latter is misleading, it tends to make people think of the Assassin's Creed 2 debacle.
| andrew wrote: | | I don't, since all of what I've mentioned here is passed on from what my friends and the reviews I've read have mentioned (the DRM is irrelevant to me), but googling yielded 4-5 relevant sources on the first page of results. |
"Starcraft 2 DRM" yielded no mention of it in the first five pages. Nor did "Starcraft 2 30 day" or "Starcraft 2 reactivation" or "Starcraft 2 reauthentication." Perhaps I'm using the wrong search terms?
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DeD CHiKn
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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Is it worth playing though?
I really dont have a social life any more so yeah, I have time. But is it worth the 60 bucks?
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Arc Tempest
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| Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Definitely.
(Says the guy on the third run through of the campaign.)
If you don't have a life at the moment just play on brutal, that'll take plenty of time off your hands.
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DeD CHiKn
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Off to a good start.
GOt the game, got home and installed it, registered with battle.net, try to log on and battle.net is unable to connect so I cant play.
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