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WheelsOfConfusion · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 11146 Location: Unknown Kaddath

The only actual Plato I've read was The Republic.

Celaeno · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 2995 Location: Kzoo

I enjoyed reading Protagoras the most, but my Euthyphro, Apology, & Crito combination is my favorite.

Dogen · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 9325 Location: Bellingham, WA

I wanted to bring parts of Protagoras into the conversation because in it Socrates and Protagoras discuss the nature of virtue and whether it is inherent or learned. Unfortunately, my copy of Protagoras & Meno is 90 miles away for the next two weeks. I was hoping to just say, "remember that?" and you'd all go, "Oh yeah!" Ah well.

[Edit: superfluous punctuation]
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Celaeno · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 2995 Location: Kzoo

Oh yeah!

Socrates says virtue can't be taught. If it can be, then teachers and students of virtue should exist. The man who is virtuous should be able to teach virtue, but no such teachers can be found.

Is that what you were talking about?

Some Guy! · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 297

Uncle Taylorbell · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 3191 Location: Northern England

OT, perhaps, but I'm selling this:

(not mint condition, as you'll see).

That's a 1893 copy of the Pheadrus, Lysis & Protogoras, published by McMillan.

A little frayed, but not too much.

Of course, some stupid cunt tore out part of the flyleaf, and spilt coffee or something on it. (Not me).

Pm if you can give it a good home for a few dollars.

Dogen · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 9325 Location: Bellingham, WA

PeteMoss · Guest

I think that virtue can be taught, but not as in school lessons. It would have to be taught by example and the person being the example is someone the, for lack of a better term, Student must look up to and respect.

San Padrone · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 106 Location: GTFO Land

Right on, Pete. Right on.

But to add my two cents, that's the right principle. Sometimes you see kids growing up nowadays and may think "what a disrespectful little brat" and so on. Some want to blame it on the kids, some on the schools, and some on the parents. I can't help but think, Ok, so where did the responsibility go? And where's Wheels so that he can give me a memorable quip for this?
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