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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not if they're loaded into a space canon and fired one at a time into it, moron.


oooo - can i pull the trigger? canicanicanicani?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

YenTheFirst wrote:
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As much as we may be animals, we can do plenty to survive without killing a animal, i.e vegetarians.


oh, so we have to be nice to the cute fluffy aminals, but it's fine to kill vegetables for our own means, eh?


Vegetables reproduce quicker then Humans. Animals are cute and fuzzy.

If killing something weaker then you technologically(bear or boars),strength (puppies and kittens) or otherwise(anything else) makes you happy, than your sick.

If an alien landed and began obliterating us for thier pleasure because they're stronger, would you enjoy that?

Think about the animals, they don't enjoy being killed by something stronger, but it still happens. Why can't we let them fight amongst themselves like natural.

The sun vs population on a rocket ship will have no god damn effect on the Earth, are you born from the seeds of stupidity or what? This is grade 10 science..hell this is just common sense.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Space canons don't have triggers. They have fuses.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Secret wrote:
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you're mouthy without the deserving-to-be bits


Quip with actual wit, please.


comment with purpose and reason. your edgy attitude is dull.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The sun vs population on a rocket ship will have no god damn effect on the Earth, are you born from the seeds of stupidity or what? This is grade 10 science..hell this is just common sense.


so if the rocket ship causes the sun to eject something like a solar flare, that won't have any effect on the earth?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nathan wrote:
Space canons don't have triggers. They have fuses.


i can do fuses. i'm real good with matches.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That_Guy wrote:

Vegetables reproduce quicker then Humans. Animals are cute and fuzzy.

Many animals reproduce faster than humans too. So?

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If killing something weaker then you technologically(bear or boars),strength (puppies and kittens) or otherwise(anything else) makes you happy, than your sick.

Way to make it personal. I don't enjoy hunting, y'know. But other people do, and you're still not making any point about WHY it is bad. HOW is killing an animal, for any reason, magically a bad thing? What's your reasoning behind that?

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If an alien landed and began obliterating us for thier pleasure because they're stronger, would you enjoy that?

No, I wouldn't. But I never said the animals would enjoy it, or like it. Or that they should. Why the hell would it matter if the prey approves of being killed? It doesn't.

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Think about the animals, they don't enjoy being killed by something stronger, but it still happens.

Yes, it does. And it'd happen quite a bit if we didn't exist, too. I understand that they don't enjoy it, the issue here is that you still have no apparent REASON to think that killing is a bad thing, or that suffering is. Provide some kind of logic behind that and I'm fine.

Hell, I agree with you that people shouldn't just randomly kill shit for no reason, but it bothers me that you don't seem to have any sense behind your conviction that it is bad for them to do so.

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The sun vs population on a rocket ship will have no god damn effect on the Earth, are you born from the seeds of stupidity or what? This is grade 10 science..hell this is just common sense.

No, dumbfuck, pay attention. I'm talking about influence, the effect that the collision would have. Not on the Earth, but on the sun.
I'll put it simply: a pretty big rock is flying at a giantic ball of molten fire. When that big rock hits the molten fire, it is bound to do something. It might not be catastrophic for the molten fireball, but an effect will indeed occur. That's all there is to it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mouse wrote:
That_Guy wrote:

The sun vs population on a rocket ship will have no god damn effect on the Earth, are you born from the seeds of stupidity or what? This is grade 10 science..hell this is just common sense.


so if the rocket ship causes the sun to eject something like a solar flare, that won't have any effect on the earth?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_Flare

As often as they happen, no it won't have an effect on the earth. Unless one manages to reach a few thousand light years,which hasn't happened yet.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That_Guy wrote:
Vegetables reproduce quicker then Humans. Animals are cute and fuzzy.

If killing something weaker then you technologically(bear or boars),strength (puppies and kittens) or otherwise(anything else) makes you happy, than your sick.


So, you seem to be saying that all humans take sick pleasure in killing, unlike animals which are fuzzy, sacred, and inviolable humans cannot kill simply because it is necessary to survive.

Do you honestly believe that pile of horse-shit or have I completely missed what you are saying because you can't maintain a single comprehensible point for more than a few seconds?

That_Guy wrote:
Think about the animals, they don't enjoy being killed by something stronger, but it still happens.


Yes it happens, it's called NATURE. Natural selection and all that good stuff. You may wish to take a grade ten science course and learn something about it. And please take a grade three English course while you're at it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mouse wrote:
nathan wrote:
Space canons don't have triggers. They have fuses.


i can do fuses. i'm real good with matches.


thats' good: in space you need, to be.

(solar winds)
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Many animals reproduce faster than humans too. So?

Way to make it personal. I don't enjoy hunting, y'know. But other people do, and you're still not making any point about WHY it is bad. HOW is killing an animal, for any reason, magically a bad thing? What's your reasoning behind that?

No, I wouldn't. But I never said the animals would enjoy it, or like it. Or that they should. Why the hell would it matter if the prey approves of being killed? It doesn't.

Yes, it does. And it'd happen quite a bit if we didn't exist, too. I understand that they don't enjoy it, the issue here is that you still have no apparent REASON to think that killing is a bad thing, or that suffering is. Provide some kind of logic behind that and I'm fine.

Hell, I agree with you that people shouldn't just randomly kill shit for no reason, but it bothers me that you don't seem to have any sense behind your conviction that it is bad for them to do so.


No, dumbfuck, pay attention. I'm talking about influence, the effect that the collision would have. Not on the Earth, but on the sun.
I'll put it simply: a pretty big rock is flying at a giantic ball of molten fire. When that big rock hits the molten fire, it is bound to do something. It might not be catastrophic for the molten fireball, but an effect will indeed occur. That's all there is to it.


Stop revolving on this, if you think we can kill animals because they reproduce faster, just think about how many extinct or on the brink of extinction there are.

We can eat them, thats part of survival, im not saying you hunt them without reason but alot of people do.

Animals can kill eachother as survival, thats part of thier own crap they need to sort, why do we have to mess with it?

and it might cause the sun to do some poof or something but it won't hurt it, or us, which is what you were implying.

As much as I love a debate I need to go to work and mop floors, have fun kids.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That_Guy wrote:

Stop revolving on this, if you think we can kill animals because they reproduce faster, just think about how many extinct or on the brink of extinction there are.

We can eat them, thats part of survival, im not saying you hunt them without reason but alot of people do.

Animals can kill eachother as survival, thats part of thier own crap they need to sort, why do we have to mess with it?

Revolving? I'm not revolving, I'm wondering what the hell point you were trying to make. Is the faster reproduction the reason you were attempting to provide that makes it better to kill plants than animals...? You're really failing to making a point here. If all humans decided to switch from eating animals and plants to suddenly being vegetarians, that'd cause a massive shift in the planetary ecosystem which would probably cause the extinction of a number of animals, and quite possibly some plants. Extinction and endangerment won't magically be prevented by vegetarianism.

Yes I know they do. And you still have yet to come up with a reason for why you think that's a bad thing.

We ARE animals. So 'their' crap IS our crap. You're drawing a weird line somewhere.


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and it might cause the sun to do some poof or something but it won't hurt it, or us, which is what you were implying.

No actually I only implied that it'd hurt it. It would definitely hurt us, though. Unless you think of being molten as some super-life. And when I did imply that the sun would be hurt I was referring to it in the primitive sense that it would cause a change in the operations of the sun -which again, seems to be the only thing you're attempting to argue. Look at the place where I originally posted it, it says that by your apparent reasoning, that'd be hurting the sun because it would change it. After all you seem to think that change is bad, or something.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I am going to deal with mouse.

Please read what you wrote. Then read it again, and then stop being a redundant annoyance.

To begin: I made sense,
The sleep thing was for grammar errors, as I was fairly sure I had missed a few on my quick scan through. My being tired has nothing to do with what I said.

Second, do not call me stupid, EVER. You do not know me; proof being the stupid comments; second, I gave a reasoned, logical answer, stop being a fucking bitch. I will admit there may be holes in my OPINION, but that is the same with EVERYONE.

To repeat my point HUMANS SUCK[i]

Now that that is out of the way, and that outburst managed to gain me some control as to not bitching you I say this.

Rabids attack. They do not let themselves be driven off, or left, they will attack brutally. Wolves and such will kill them. Do not believe it go to you library and read a book. Thank you.
I never said they had a the ability to perform mercy killing, it is the whole killing off the rabid member is if compared to human a form of animalistic mercy killings.

Hey, you may have missed it but I never said animals are perfect. They can be cruel, but humans take the gold, silver and bronze is mindless homicide of others, animals, and the planet.

That last bit made sense; do I need to use smaller words?

No, I never said, violence was only useable, or whatever convoluted thing you spewed forth when someone was attacked by a rabid. I was yet again using my example to say that a human threatened with jail and not reacting compared to a wolf being attacked by a rabid I not comparable, the fact you can't connect the whole of what I said makes me wonder how you got through Socials, history, science and anything else involving reading in school.

Humans hunt to survive, I have no trouble as we are animals and omnivores...we eat meat (just in case the "made absolutely no sense.")

Ever read a biology text, or even watch a documentary?
animals, breed to procreate, it had been scientifically proven that humans and dolphins experience pleasure. other animals, it just happens. It is a reflex from pheromones.

Females and males in animals engage in reproducing on a basis of they both know that by some survival instinct they have to have sex. If a female is uninterested, many times the male is driven off.

Murderers, do not have reason, Jealousy, is rarely about killing to keep a mate, mostly it is about selfish human want, i.e.: Ruth Ellis.
Many murderers kill people randomly, those they do not even know.
Example: 9/11, Virginia tech, school shootings in Columbine, Montréal, Tennessee...etc. Random killings and rape. Robert Pickton... the US army, everyone in the bloody war on terror.
Ted -fucking- Bundy.
Need I go on? I can list hundreds.


Moreover, yes humanity is on a downward slide, are you fucking blind. Can you read a bloody newspaper? Watch the news, learn something.

Everything you said still happens,
I will admit slavery is not so widely practiced anymore, but it is still there, in South America, and Africa, and parts of Asia.
Child labour
Do not forget war for oil,
CLIMATE CHANGE
the still occurring effects of Nuclear technology (Hiroshima)
The collapse of intelligent society
The perversion of society (I.e. massive kiddie porn rings that go across all nearly every inhabited continent)
Corruption of government
Etc

Protecting endangered species…let me see in the past fifty years more animals have gone extinct that ever before on record.
WE are doing nothing to protect the environment, No one follows the Kyoto protocol, all attempts are just media garbage, and no one has done anything.
Religious tolerances...do not make me laugh. Look at the Middle East and western society. Do not go on with but they are keeping the peace, bullshit, they are simply forcing their beliefs.
No one is fighting diseases, it is a fucking facade. Cancer has been cured a few times over; the money is just too great, same with anything else.

Ludicrous cause my ideals and perspectives differ from your own,
Well then, you must be the all knowing being then. "I am sorry for crossing you of god of the gods but forgive my silly ludicrous impertinence. Please forgive me"
Fuck off mouse, learn some tolerance and accept other people's views then get back at me.

I find it funny how you all accuse me of being out of line and bothering people I was having a discussion, I was hearing Nathan out, seeing his view, and sharing my own, and they all you self righteous pricks invade brimming with self-importance.

Oh as a side note to the removal from myself from this race.

The human race is revolting. A festering cesspool of stupidity and violence. I am ashamed of being called human, of sharing the same planet with something so narrow-minded.
So yeah I do.
Tried too, sadly that failed. Oh well, try, try again, eh?

Consider this, I beg of you, do not act all high and mighty then tell someone to commit suicide.
It took any respect I had for you and shoved it in the metaphorical wood chipper.

Have a nice day. Smile

Oh and there is no air in space, to that matches comment. So ni fire, better think of another trigger for the connon. But that is not the issue.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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do not call me stupid, EVER.

You're stupid.
EGADS I DID IT! I'm such a rebel. :O
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keign wrote:
Trampstamp wrote:
do not call me stupid, EVER.

You're stupid.
EGADS I DID IT! I'm such a rebel. :O


Question..is difficult to pull that amount of idiocy? Is it done on purpose or simply an uncomtrollable action?

At your "attempt" at humor, I can do nothing but smile...you are interestingly immature, for one who wants to pose a decent arguement.
Do you think you're "new"? Clever? smart?
Explain how that is funny. I would like to know.

I hope you got a lolly or something for making a fool out of yourself.
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