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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sam - can i ask what you are doing?

it's always best if you can leave professionally - then at least you have some hopes of getting a reference (or at least not having your old employer actively warn off potential new ones). plus, you never know who you will run across in later life - always better to leave a good impression.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be unwise for me to talk too specifically about it. It's a sales job where I am paid on commission and with the details of said sales now completely known to me it turns out that I've been bait-and-switched into something I consider unethical now that I know about what's actually going on.

Here's the kicker in the dilemma: I'm killer at these sales. I was told I was 'just slaying them' in terms of my revenue per hour. I'm getting back returns which are averaging me 37 dollars an hour in income. I am, apparently, a real slick motherfucking snake-oil salesman. The perks are nice. I like my office. I could get real good and comfortable in this industry. I'd just be a shithole.

So it becomes a question of financial necessity / financial temptation versus the morality of what I'm doing. Staying would be the easy option. Leaving would be, uh, well it would derail my life plans a lot. Which is why I'm waffling for as long as I am, even if I know what the conclusion has to be.

Yeah ok awesome and as I write this post, a long-overdue rolling thunderstorm came over and replaced the stifling heat with a cool, wet, western breeze through the patio. HOW POETIC.

I think that's a pretty good sign, i'll go with that.

see you guys after work, I guess.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stay strong, sam.

um.....look at it as acquiring skills that you can later use for the good of humanity? thus paying off your karmic debt for the evil you do now?

...yeah, not helpful. enjoy the thunderstorm, at least.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jinx wrote:
Dogen wrote:
It's called gluconeogenesis ("making new glucose"), but I didn't know it made you smell like a sewer. Fun! You were either burning an awful lot of calories or not eating enough. Is the Army not treating you right?


*cough* Marine Corp *cough*


Yknow this occured to me and i have no idea why i felt compelled to share in the face of sam's job horror which is really really horrible and dude even if it makes things tough i know from personal experience having a job you're deeply morally opposed to can make you physically ill if you keep at it too long.


Anyway, after about the third time this situation happened to me i just started using "uncle sam" if i was unsure which branch someone was in.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam, hope you find your way through this predictament. *hug*

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

monkey that assessment about physical illness was about fucking spot on and could be used to sum up today. It was total hell.

I would not be able to do a repeat of it. Like, not even one more day. i up and quit.

now i'm just lying here feebly slapping my hands at an excel spreadsheet and turning my previous finances into an impromptu journal entry row by row DEAR DIARY I HOPE YOU LIKE RAMEN DO YOU LIKE RAMEN SINCERELY YOUR FRIEND FIELD C 22 PREVIOUSLY "PROJECTED INCOME 2013 Q4"
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Step 1: Move to England
Step 2: Open pub with Gary
Step 3: Gary makes the pub profitable
Step 4: Fire Gary
Step 5: Profit
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gary would kill me in three days.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"That's My Gary"

Sam: OY GARY. Haha, I am saying OY because that's a british thing.
Gary: Haha. You are very funny, sam. I enjoy your wit and your intellect.
Sam: Thanks gary! Or should I say SIR HOBBIT of the Bilbolands.
Gary: Implying I look like a hobbit! Yes! This is very fresh humor.
Sam: Thanks gary! Haha so how do we do this, we shrimp on the barbie, right? Because it's an english pub?
Gary: Hey sam. What's the most you ever won on a coin toss.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam wrote:
gary would kill me in three days.


So make sure you profit and fire him by the second. Then you can hire burly bodyguards and slander him in the papers.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the idea, i'll champion myself as a dude who will quit an unethical job, then get supported to exploit gary and reward his profitability by firing him.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too risky if you're not willing to to have him sleep with both you and your mum.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam wrote:
gary would kill me in three days.


Sure you didn't mean that the other way around?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gary already does my mum to the extent that it's the equivalent of casual conversation

i mean hell, my mum is now a place he checks in on foursquare
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dogen wrote:
It's called gluconeogenesis ("making new glucose"), but I didn't know it made you smell like a sewer. Fun! You were either burning an awful lot of calories or not eating enough. Is the Army not treating you right?


The former. I was eating three MRE's a day the whole time (call it a bit over 4,000 calories). But it was damn hot and humid (when it wasn't raining) and we were working all day.

And Jinx already corrected you about which gun club I'm in.

Also, MRE's do terrible, awful things to your digestion.
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