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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:04 am    Post subject: 10 January 2008 - Gotta... Reply with quote



I wouldn't mind some of what she got!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want the caffeine more.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So she was all motivated to change things and Buddha would have none of it.

Buddha is such a dick.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was either going to be that or a shiny object.

This crazy theory comes to you from the fact I have a keychain that says "I was going to conquer the world until I was distracted by something sparkly."
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buddha is evil but he is so good at it we think he is good
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, he's helping her. She was too over-motivated, which can cause problems. Buddha saved the day!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree. She was all wound-up and high on caffeine, not geniuinely motivated to change things.

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Gotta live. Gotta love. Gotta do the right thing. Gotta learn. Gotta earn. Gotta change the world.


In my opinion, this sounds like she feels like she has to do all those things at once, getting obsessed and carried away (over-motivation and pressure are the first steps to pscyhosis, not success) which actually makes it impossible to reach any of them.

So what B. did was similar to this.

Meaning he helped regain balance (note the yin-yang). She still can change the world, you know. I would even say she's better off with the new attitude, and won't have a breakdown if she doesn't - so that she may try again.

Of course that's just my view on this strip. Which is true, false and irrelevant.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trees in the background bother me. Austere -> lush? Winter -> Spring? I can't puzzle out what they were meant to signify.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe they're pine.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those in the first panel clearly are not.

It appears you are suggesting that Tat is showing different kinds of trees in the beginning and ending of the strip. Now, that's possible, though it seems a touch clumsy, but it is no kind of answer to my implied question, because even if they are different trees, the change still means something.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do the two giant cloud-phalluses in the background of the final panel mean something as well?

Even Sinfest can convey mood instead of exact meaning.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are you being bratty?

Reread your last line. You had to strawmannishly slip in the word "exact," because you know perfectly well that conveyed mood is a part of meaning, and is a part of signifying. It is a part of what I am talking about - neither set of trees sets a mood that backs up or fits with the action.

(Honestly, what did you think I meant by "austere" and "lush" if I wasn't talking about mood?)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sojobo wrote:
Why are you being bratty?


Why are you? You brought out the italics and the 'clearly' after I provided a fairly innocent response to your post, and then insulted me after I responded to that.

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because you know perfectly well that conveyed mood is a part of meaning, and is a part of signifying.


Or it could have appeared that you were hunting for some kind of overcomplicated symbolism that may not be there.

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It is a part of what I am talking about - neither set of trees sets a mood that backs up or fits with the action.


I believe they do, actually. I don't know, however, why you are so intent on determining the deeper meaning of the corner of a panel of a comic strip.

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(Honestly, what did you think I meant by "austere" and "lush" if I wasn't talking about mood?)


It looked like a prelude to your second question.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Secret wrote:
Why are you?

Because you are arguing (badly) for the sake of arguing, when I'm looking for discussion.

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You brought out the italics

Which were emphasizing how you completely avoided the point of my first post.

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and the 'clearly' after I provided a fairly innocent response to your post,

The 'clearly' was at least as innocent as your response.

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and then insulted me after I responded to that.

I called you bratty because you were arguing for the sake of arguing. You still are.

Secret wrote:
Or it could have appeared that you were hunting for some kind of overcomplicated symbolism that may not be there.

Any "overcomplicated symbolism" you might think I was looking for came purely from your mind, and not from my post.

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It is a part of what I am talking about - neither set of trees sets a mood that backs up or fits with the action.


I believe they do, actually.

Please continue. Tell me how/why.

(Why wouldn't you just open with this instead of being a pest?)

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I don't know, however, why you are so intent on determining the deeper meaning of the corner of a panel of a comic strip.

So intent? Rolling Eyes "corner"? Rolling Eyes

I'm asking because I'm curious. I'm curious because I don't think it makes sense. Backgrounds transitioning from cityscape to meadow would have supported the action. The ones on the comic do not.

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(Honestly, what did you think I meant by "austere" and "lush" if I wasn't talking about mood?)


It looked like a prelude to your second question.

Is this another dodge, or are you really not getting the point? Yes, it's a prelude, a prelude talking about mood.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you guys just start an argument over some fucking trees?
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