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The website itself is doing a better job of denying service!
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from an article about a similar event: | Quote: | | KOB-TV reports that a K-9 dog named "Leo" incorrectly alerted police to the existence of drugs in each of the men's vehicles. The station reports that Leo's drug-sniffing certification expired in April 2011. |
the dog is totally going down for this.
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| Quote: | | I used to be a narc/patrol dog handler when I was an active duty Army Military Police Sergeant...Dogs don't hit incorrectly...it is their handler's fault, in these two instances with the same dog, I am willing to bet the dog was cued by his handler to "hit" on purpose using a hand gesture, sound, or verbal command. A common mistake in the detector dog handling world is not learning its JND." JND, or Just Noticeable Difference, is that precise moment when an actual "Hit" occurs and the dog reacts as he is taught. Many rookies and morons handling dogs can cue a dog by ignorance or on purpose...it has NOTHING to do with the dog...they know what the hell they are smelling and do only what their handler tells them to do, directly or indirectly. The department should be sued for allowing a non-certified dog to even work. Nothing they do is legal and can hold up in court. There is definitely something nefarious about these two incidents |
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Mindslicer
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| Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:58 am Post subject: |
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| mouse wrote: |
from an article about a similar event: | Quote: | | KOB-TV reports that a K-9 dog named "Leo" incorrectly alerted police to the existence of drugs in each of the men's vehicles. The station reports that Leo's drug-sniffing certification expired in April 2011. |
the dog is totally going down for this. |
Not really, alas, as the Supreme Court recently ruled that a drug-sniffing dog's alert can constitute probable cause for a search. The police don't even need to keep records on how often each dog, when it alerts, results in contraband found, so the onus is on the accused to somehow prove the dog is unreliable. |
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http://gawker.com/dad-calls-cops-on-son-to-teach-him-a-lesson-cops-shoot-1460159897
| Quote: | A father's attempt to teach his son a lesson for taking his truck without permission ended in tragedy Monday after a local police officer shot the teenager dead.
James Comstock told the Des Moines Register he called the police on his son Tyler after the latter took the former's truck in retaliation for refusing to buy him cigarettes.
Ames Police Officer Adam McPherson reportedly spotted the lawn care company vehicle and pursued it onto the Iowa State University campus, where a brief standoff ensued after Tyler allegedly refused orders to turn off the engine.
McPherson eventually fired six shots into the truck, two of which struck Tyler who was later pronounced dead. |
In light of the Gawker article not mentioning it at all, the kid was driving absolutely recklessly, including driving against traffic on a one way street, swerving in and out of oncoming traffic, ramming the police, and excessive speed.
Dash cam of the pursuing officer:
http://www.kcci.com/news/central-iowa/dashcam-video-shows-ames-chase-shooting/-/9357080/22852990/-/3dg51cz/-/index.html
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Heretical Rants
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| fritterdonut wrote: |
Dash cam of the pursuing officer: |
yeah, I definitely don't blame the police for what happened on this one
| Quote: | | In light of the Gawker article not mentioning it at all |
news outlets are rubbish
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| I think calling Gawker a "news outlet" is being a little too kind, but I agree with the statement in general. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:23 am Post subject: |
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I am completely unfamiliar with Gawker and intend to remain that way, so it's only natural that I might fail at describing it accurately
I do think that the police could have handled the situation better, but I don't blame them, and that article selectively withholding information like that is reprehensible
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I seriously have to facepalm every time someone makes a 'they should have shot out the tires' comment.
Also, for every commentator who says the police 'escalated' the situation or shouldn't have pursued... fuck off. They tried to do a standard pull over, he blew through a red light, then rammed a police car hard enough to turn it completely sideways. If this doesn't label you as a very real threat to society, I don't know what does.
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fritterdonut
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I find it rather funny that Sawant supports rent control when most first year Microeconomics courses will tell you that rent control, like any other binding price ceiling, results in a short term success but a long term deadweight loss and shortage.
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Why are you surprised that a socialist doesn't think the free market is worth a squirt of piss?
I'm pretty sure you couldn't call me a socialist and I think the concept of anything but a tightly regulated market has been an unmitigated disaster.
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