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stripeypants

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Dogen

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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, the article says near the Space Needle, which is every bit as tragic but not quite as sensational as crashing into it. I can't imagine being in the KOMO building and watching your colleagues die in a crash on your doorstep.  _________________ "Worse comes to worst, my people come first, but my tribe lives on every country on earth. I’ll do anything to protect them from hurt, the human race is what I serve." - Baba Brinkman |
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stripeypants

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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, okay, I heard wrong and then misread the article. I'm not at my best today, so when I first heard, I thought it was a traffic helicopter that had gotten stuck or something. _________________ ::lesser crisis mode::
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Yinello

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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:26 am Post subject: |
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I'm getting sick of my SO saying this will begin a third war. |
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Moor

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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:45 am Post subject: |
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Yinello wrote: |
I'm getting sick of my SO saying this will begin a third war. |
Sick because of it's overdramatic sensationalizing, sick because it's getting repetitive, or sick because it's obvious? |
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Darqcyde

Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 11917 Location: A false vacuum abiding in ignorance.
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Moor wrote: | Yinello wrote: |
I'm getting sick of my SO saying this will begin a third war. |
Sick because of it's overdramatic sensationalizing, sick because it's getting repetitive, or sick because it's obvious? |
People tend to be more paranoid when something is in their own backyard. _________________ ...if a single leaf holds the eye, it will be as if the remaining leaves were not there.
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mouse

Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 21162 Location: under the bed
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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this isn't a news story, it's in the op-ed section, but it gives a lot of data on exactly how much anonymous money has been coming into the american political system since citizens united, along with the koch brother's rationale on why it's good that they be allowed to do anonymous donations (spoiler: they are afraid they might be oppressed by the majority).
seriously scary, but worth knowing. _________________ aka: neverscared!
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Yinello

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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:38 am Post subject: |
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Moor wrote: | Yinello wrote: |
I'm getting sick of my SO saying this will begin a third war. |
Sick because of it's overdramatic sensationalizing, sick because it's getting repetitive, or sick because it's obvious? |
Definitely the first two. |
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ShadowCell
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 7395 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:49 am Post subject: |
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yeah there is pretty much no chance World War III starts over this. nobody is willing to actually go to war with Russia over the chunk of Ukraine it just stole, so if Ukraine wants Crimea back, they're gonna have to do it themselves.
more interesting, though, is the possibility that the Kremlin's embrace of a separatist group in another country will stir up separatist sentiment at home. Russia is riven with ethnic groups that occupy some vital territory.
i'm sure Putin will deal with them with his usual conciliatory, consensus-building approach of massive state violence, but it's something worth keeping an eye on, i think. |
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Yinello

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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Putin wants the countries back that seperated itself from Russia. I'm sure some of them don't mind going back like Crimea but others went away for a reason and they definitely won't go back to Russia without a fight. Unlike Crimea, people aren't exactly happy about the Russians. |
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mouse

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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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as i understand it, there are some pretty unhappy crimeans as well - like the tatars. and putin is making this whole big deal about how oppressed the ethnic russians are in crimea...i kinda suspect he's looking at some serious unrest in the future. _________________ aka: neverscared!
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Yinello

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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Putin is just bullshitting because he knows his propaganda will be effective if he keeps it up. |
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ShadowCell
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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oh, i doubt this is going to lead to, like, the imminent breakup of Russia or whatever (oh, but the irony if it did...!) but some of Russia's largest oil fields are located in territories that are occupied by separatist-minded ethnic/religious groups. Putin could well be setting himself up for some headaches within his own borders. |
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mouse

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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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i suspect merkel is right, and he has lost it. if he thinks he can get the soviet union back _now_....
of course the problem is, if he doesn't want to leave power, no one in russia is going to make him. so we may be stuck with his attempts to turn back the clock to the good old days for quite a while. _________________ aka: neverscared!
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Moor

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