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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, I love how the edit contrasts the original post.

We should be able to kick people's ass!! I have a God First policy.


Therefore God kicks people's asses!!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katrin wrote:
As for the dehumanization bit, that was reference to the "friendship and commitment".

That wasn't dehumanizing at all. If you put physical pleasure first, friendship and commitment go out the door. That doesn't make you less human. And you don't present yourself as someone who is seeking well-being. If that is what you are seeking, you might want to phrase things differently. You come off as someone who is still figuring out life and is therefore still seeking chemical rushes (natural or substance induced).

And that post my Zeku made no sense. Sure, getting your ass kicked is an experience but the God stuff following ... confusion abounds. I see how the God First philosophy counts as a philosophy but the way it was explained... ::shakes her head::

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you put physical pleasure first, friendship and commitment go out the door.


...what?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my experience if you seek out physical pleasure over everything else, friendships and/or commitments don't last. I thought that was clear... ::nose wrinkle::
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's been my experience as well, LF.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really wish it didn't work that way. Again I say: maybe I have read too much Heinlein. I am having trouble in my own life because of this pleasure seeking mentality. I really wish it worked... ::sighs::
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lasairfiona wrote:
In my experience if you seek out physical pleasure over everything else, friendships and/or commitments don't last. I thought that was clear... ::nose wrinkle::


Lasairfiona wrote:
I really wish it didn't work that way. Again I say: maybe I have read too much Heinlein. I am having trouble in my own life because of this pleasure seeking mentality. I really wish it worked... ::sighs::


I questioned the first quote because you issued it as a generalized statement of fact, rather than an anecdote.

The second quote indicates to me that you're probably severely misinterpretting Heinlein's work, as he does not ever say (or even imply) that the primary pursuit of physical pleasure can or should dominate a life, or that such pursuit is consequence-free.

Which of his writings (please specify book and, if possible, quotes) gave you this impression?
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