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Sojobo



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Set wrote:
Or if they weren't there in the first place!

Everyone understands that you think marijuana should be legal. That's not the significant issue in the story you linked - as everyone else is saying, it's about extradition.

Set wrote:
WALL OF TEXT

Unnecessary. Most of us don't even disagree with you about the legality of marijuana.

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So, onto a bunch of other stuff that "they" dont want you to know.

*sigh*

Set wrote:
Marijuana has contributed 0 deaths.

I strongly suspect this is not true. Marijuana is safer than alcohol, but it does still have a pretty negative effect on your ability to operate heavy machinery (driving).
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting a blowjob, or having anal sex is still illegal in some southern states, but the laws arent enforced. Should they be?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sojobo wrote:
I strongly suspect this is not true. Marijuana is safer than alcohol, but it does still have a pretty negative effect on your ability to operate heavy machinery (driving).


Then where are the news reports, newspaper articles, body counts, people who are suffering?

Also, it isn't like theres stuff thats already legal that has a pretty negative effect on your ability to operate heavy machinery.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Then where are all the newspaper articles, news teams, drug programs, and statistics? Where are the racking numbers of horrible deaths contributed by the affects if marijuana?

You are again overreacting. I said I suspect that the number of deaths is not zero. You need to search out some way to mellow, chill out, calm your nerves a bit, take the edge off, relax.

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Set wrote:
Also, it isn't like theres stuff thats already legal that has a pretty negative effect on your ability to operate heavy machinery.
Not the point. I'm not arguing against legalization. No one here is. I was specifically referring to your assertion about "0 deaths", which I think is likely to be inaccurate.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's hard to relax when bullshit surrounds you

Well then seems like I'm not the one who has to prove there are 0 deaths, since i believe there arent any

And even there was any deaths contributed or linked to marijuana guess what?

It most likely wasnt from the drug itself, it was the result of BAD CHOICES
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drug War Widow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsmi1-29fFE&feature=player_embedded
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Set wrote:
Well then seems like I'm not the one who has to prove there are 0 deaths, since i believe there arent any

It looks like you're referring to who has the burden of proof. That would be an interesting question... if I had asserted anything. Smile

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And even there was any deaths contributed or linked to marijuana guess what?

It most likely wasnt from the drug itself, it was the result of BAD CHOICES

No. If marijuana contributes to deaths, then it is a cause of those deaths. I think you want to be saying something else. I suggest a position like, "Driving under the influence of marijuana should be illegal, but marijuana use in general shouldn't."
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Set wrote:
It most likely wasnt from the drug itself, it was the result of BAD CHOICES

Thank god pot doesn't influence our choices!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MACCA!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the situation and the response of both governments reasonable from a judicial standpoint.

Yes.

Is this situation in particular, and much of the war on drugs as a whole, a giant waste of resources with (in the case of the latter) far reaching negative consequences?

Also yes.

And speaking simply as someone who saw a parent waste her life away on marijuana (until she got enough tolerance she turned to meth to get high), it isn't as harmless as proponents like to think. It's got all the destructive capabilities of any other addictive substance or behavior, and to pretend otherwise is just fucking idiotic.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arc Tempest wrote:
(until she got enough tolerance she turned to meth to get high)

That's like developing a tolerance to budweiser and upgrading to ketamine.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps I might bring up the point that if weed was sold in stores people wouldn't have to get it from drug dealers, who may or may not also have meth for sale?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly. Then you'd have to get it from a responsible pharmacist who may or may not also have meth for sale.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pot killed my father's twin sister, fyi.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nathan wrote:
Exactly. Then you'd have to get it from a responsible pharmacist who may or may not also have meth for sale.


Not to say it isn't still bad for you, but I'd trust a pharmacists meth over dirty street meth any day, although I personally wouldn't touch meth regardless. Legalizing dextromethamphetamine for over the counter purchase is quite a bound from legalizing marijuana, though, is it not?
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