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nathan



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't advocated legalizing either.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam wrote:
Pot killed my father's twin sister, fyi.


My God, can we criminalize it again? Super double criminalized.
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Set



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i was asked to sign a legalize marijuana petition in front of a local store.

And within 10 feet there was a police car

I'm glad things are taking a step in the right direction Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DeD CHiKn wrote:
Sam wrote:
Pot killed my father's twin sister, fyi.


My God, can we criminalize it again? Super double criminalized.


She ODed on it? I didn't think so.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marijuana yanked my pigtails and called me a dirty little bitch.
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Sam



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mizike wrote:
She ODed on it? I didn't think so.


I wanna see someone manage to overdose on pot. What are they gonna do, mainline it?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: I have a PhD in reasonableness. Reply with quote

Sojobo wrote:
nathan wrote:
Would it be equally reasonable to extradite him for an internet gambling site? Or in a starker example, to send a Brit to China for violating article 105 (defamation/subversion of the national regime)?

This is so interesting.

I kind of want to answer that the reasonableness of sending a Brit to China for defamation compared to the reasonableness of extraditing someone for breaking marijuana laws is proportional to the reasonableness of defamation being illegal compared to the reasonableness of marijuana being illegal. It's such a slimy answer, though.
i want to say that fiscal commerce is not protected as strongly as the free trafficking of ideas is. were commerce considered as solely as a method of 'free speech', all fraud would be legally defined simply as my way of saying "my god, but you're stupid".

the difference may also lie in the physical location of the "transaction" -- if the china-considered-subversive commentary existed on a server outside of china, then the countrymen who were exposed to it would have had to have reached across and outside of a boundary of jurisdiction to access it, whereas a packet of pot, as a fiscal and physical representative of the sender's business, reached across and into a boundary of jurisdiction.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam wrote:
Mizike wrote:
She ODed on it? I didn't think so.


I wanna see someone manage to overdose on pot. What are they gonna do, mainline it?


Maybe you could choke on a brownie?
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The Highlord



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kilgore wrote:
Sam wrote:
Mizike wrote:
She ODed on it? I didn't think so.


I wanna see someone manage to overdose on pot. What are they gonna do, mainline it?


Maybe you could choke on a brownie?

But the bullets didn't kill him, the blood loss killed him. Well, no, the systemic organ failure killed him. Well, no, cellular respiration ending killed him...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam wrote:
Mizike wrote:
She ODed on it? I didn't think so.


I wanna see someone manage to overdose on pot. What are they gonna do, mainline it?


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According to the Merck Index, 12th edition, the LD50, the lethal dose for 50% of tested rats, is 42 milligrams per kilogram of body weight.
In other words, yeah, unless your mainlining pure THC extract you arent gonna overdose.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Highlord wrote:
Kilgore wrote:
Sam wrote:
Mizike wrote:
She ODed on it? I didn't think so.


I wanna see someone manage to overdose on pot. What are they gonna do, mainline it?


Maybe you could choke on a brownie?

But the bullets didn't kill him, the blood loss killed him. Well, no, the systemic organ failure killed him. Well, no, cellular respiration ending killed him...


Hrm, long story short: there is no argument against the legalization of pot that can not also be applied to alcohol - which is more harmful than marijuana in every way.

Edit: Other than inertia.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mizike wrote:
Edit: Other than inertia.


I dunno...seems to me a bottle of beer flying through the air would be more harmful than a bag of pot.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tinkeringIdiot wrote:
Mizike wrote:
Edit: Other than inertia.


I dunno...seems to me a bottle of beer flying through the air would be more harmful than a bag of pot.

Too Shea
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mizike wrote:
Hrm, long story short: there is no argument against the legalization of pot that can not also be applied to alcohol - which is more harmful than marijuana in every way.


I want both to be legal! I just am amused when people say that pot never ever ever killed nobody.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really depends on how someone interprets "killed." Pot has contributed to many deaths, but there's not a single confirmed case of pot killing someone through toxicity.
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