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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course not. His party, the Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition, got nothing.
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, I see. Can never keep those minor, bootless, powerless parties straight.

No, that's not accurate. I should say, I can't be arsed to keep them straight.
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A TUSC voter just bust out on the scene on another forum and was saying how terrible liberalism was and how liberalism was scum and social decay. Then when it turned out that people on the predominantly U.S. forum didn't understand that he meant liberalism as in lassiez faire economics and shit because liberalism has a different meaning in U.S. circles he called it 'trite american exceptionalism' that this should ever be a subject of confusion.

that is pretty much all I know about TUSC.
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be fair, liberalism is terrible. And I'll probably be voting for a party that won't get more than 2% of the vote.

So chill.
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's also all you need to know.
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and knowing is half the revolution
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, lemme make sure I got this straight, UK peeps.

Labour get 7,517,128 votes for 225 seats. Liberal Democrat get 6,001,707 for 48 seats.
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam wrote:
So, lemme make sure I got this straight, UK peeps.

Labour get 7,517,128 votes for 225 seats. Liberal Democrat get 6,001,707 for 48 seats.

Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ah, fuck. Social Democrats got three seats. This'll be a talking point for Him for the next half decade. *sigh*

What? Social Democrats? As in the group of people that split from Labour, for being "too left wing", in the 1980's, most of who's members merged with the Liberal Party to create the Liberal Democrats? I didn't even know they existed anymore.

Edit: On second thought you are probably talking about SDLP, right? That's the slightly more left-of-center and slightly more irish republican counterpart to Labour in northern ireland.


Congratulations to the green party though, it seems Lucas will be their first ever MP.

Willem: The belgian elections are coming up soon too?
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Him wrote:
CTrees wrote:
Ah, fuck. Social Democrats got three seats. This'll be a talking point for Him for the next half decade. *sigh*

What? Social Democrats? As in the group of people that split from Labour, for being "too left wing", in the 1980's, most of who's members merged with the Liberal Party to create the Liberal Democrats? I didn't even know they existed anymore.

Edit: On second thought you are probably talking about SDLP, right? That's the slightly more left-of-center and slightly more irish republican counterpart to Labour in northern ireland.


CTrees wrote:
Ah, I see. Can never keep those minor, bootless, powerless parties straight.

No, that's not accurate. I should say, I can't be arsed to keep them straight.

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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CTrees wrote:
Him wrote:
CTrees wrote:
Ah, fuck. Social Democrats got three seats. This'll be a talking point for Him for the next half decade. *sigh*

What? Social Democrats? As in the group of people that split from Labour, for being "too left wing", in the 1980's, most of who's members merged with the Liberal Party to create the Liberal Democrats? I didn't even know they existed anymore.

Edit: On second thought you are probably talking about SDLP, right? That's the slightly more left-of-center and slightly more irish republican counterpart to Labour in northern ireland.


CTrees wrote:
Ah, I see. Can never keep those minor, bootless, powerless parties straight.

No, that's not accurate. I should say, I can't be arsed to keep them straight.
Well, in an all-Great Britain context SDLP might be minor, but given Northern Ireland's special position I definitely think they are worth noting. It's them and Sinn Fein that are the "left" in the local government assembly in northern Ireland, and while Sinn Fein does not take their seats in Westminister they probably got around 3 as well, as per usual.
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean both Scottish National Party and Plaid Cymry are major parties, but not beyond Scotland and Wales, respectively. To take some comparable examples.
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CTrees wrote:
Him wrote:
CTrees wrote:
Ah, fuck. Social Democrats got three seats. This'll be a talking point for Him for the next half decade. *sigh*

What? Social Democrats? As in the group of people that split from Labour, for being "too left wing", in the 1980's, most of who's members merged with the Liberal Party to create the Liberal Democrats? I didn't even know they existed anymore.

Edit: On second thought you are probably talking about SDLP, right? That's the slightly more left-of-center and slightly more irish republican counterpart to Labour in northern ireland.


CTrees wrote:
Ah, I see. Can never keep those minor, bootless, powerless parties straight.

No, that's not accurate. I should say, I can't be arsed to keep them straight.


Shouldn't you feel just a tiny bit embarassed, tho? Just a bit?
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But, CT, if you were looking for left social democrats in the British parliament: Socialist Campaign Group. Now I don't have that much faith in them myself, but I kind of like Tony Benn.
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Him wrote:
Willem: The belgian elections are coming up soon too?

13 june, yeah. And it will be hell. It's all about Brussel-Halle-Vilvoorde and the right wing NV-A is looking to make huge gains on its back.

Vague predictions:

- CD&V will lose a few votes. They've managed to do fuck all in the last few years and fucked up everything, but hey, they're the vaguely christian, neutral party. They could burn babies and they'd still be the largest party in Flanders.
- Open VLD will lose votes, hopefully.
- Sp.a will lose votes, as always. Because they're shit and I hate that they're shit.
- Vlaams Belang will lose votes. Hopefully heavy losses as last election.
- Groen will gain votes but will still remain small
- LDD will lose votes because they're a joke
And finally: NV-A. The Flemish nationalist party that isn't crazy. Right wing and unreasonable. They're set to make huge gains. Not as huge as the polls say, not nearly as much, but they'll be looking at several percent gains.

And I'll be voting PVDA, probably. A small communist party which may get 2% if they're lucky. If they get to run, that is. They need 10.000 autographs to be allowed, which is entirely unfair. The larger parties don't even have to do it. And seeing as it's less than a month from now, they're fucking scrambling to get those autographs.

And Tony Benn is Fucking Awesome.
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