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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Next Die Hard script = completed.
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It now sounds like there will be a Lib-Con coalition after all. Silly Britons.
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be surprised if that happens. If the Lib Dems walk away from this without electoral reform, they're crazy.
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently a key part of the deal they're striking with the conservatives is a referendum on electoral reform.
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, but what are they offering? AV? AV+? STV? PR?
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welp, Cameron it is. Bah.
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually shed a couple of tears watching Gordon Brown's speech. Quite moving, really, very noble.

I might shed a couple more in the years to come though. Tories. Sheesh Sad
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



'Fuck the poor.'

On the bright side, the marriage tax breaks and the inheritance tax cut have been put on hold. The income tax threshold will be raised to 10,000, as well. At least you have that, I guess.
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, on the bright side, we now live in a Con-Dem-Nation Smile
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

AHHHHH

UHHHH

EHH

OOF

Oh well. I laughed.
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

picturesofsky wrote:
Hey, on the bright side, we now live in a Con-Dem-Nation Smile

On the downside again, here's what I've been hearing:

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So, policy stuff. Some is confirmed, some is rumour, so, pinch of salt.

Inheritance tax cut scrapped.
Marriage tax breaks not scrapped - Lib Dems will abstain on any vote.
Cap on immigration because lol.
No National Insurance rise - likely to be a VAT rise instead, because regressive taxation is so fucking great.
Government funding for independent schools because BIG SOCIETY.
10k income tax threshold is going ahead.
Lib Dem Mansion Tax scrapped.
Lib Dems have okayed immediate public spending cuts, contrary to Cable's statements prior to the election. 9 billion is being talked about.
Capital Gains increase going ahead.
Trident renewal plans going ahead.
Referendum for AV, which is rubbish but better than nothing.

Mostly notable for the Lib Dem manifesto pledges being abandoned left right and centre, except for capital gains and 10k income tax.


So, everybody loses!
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Lib Dems have okayed immediate public spending cuts, contrary to Cable's statements prior to the election. 9 billion is being talked about.


Goodbye, my job!
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I maintain that Cameron is not Thatcher and you're all a bunch of silly nannies.

Furthermore, a coalition with the Liberal Dems can only serve to further moderate whatever baby-eating tendencies the Tories still have.

But, I suppose we'll see, eh?
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mizike wrote:
I maintain that Cameron is not Thatcher and you're all a bunch of silly nannies.

Furthermore, a coalition with the Liberal Dems can only serve to further moderate whatever baby-eating tendencies the Tories still have.

But, I suppose we'll see, eh?

The Lib Dems are fine with just a referendum on AV. They officially Don't Give A Shit.
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do any of you more-informed peoples have a link to a summary of what the actual agreement between the Lib Dems and Tories is? Or would anyone mind taking the time to explain it? I think I understand the gist (Referendum on an instant runoff system, which seems quite sensible; Clegg is Deputy Prime Minister; some Lib Dems are given semi-important positions, but how important are they really?; and a change in election rules so that elections are effectively set at once every five years barring massive discontent, saving the Lib Dems from momentary base-rebellion for siding with the Tories), but I'm not certain that I get the particulars.
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