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Thy Brilliance
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Sam
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Basically, there's scores of logs which are of interesting strategic relevance to the taliban in pakistan and other people who are training forces to go up against sitting U.S. troops.
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| Quote: | MGRS locations are not meaningless intel. The Taliban know where they're fighting, but what's important is where WE thought they were, and how we prioritized what we targeted. They may not, for instance, know how we were referring to their fighting groups, but they can figure out pretty easily (using Google Maps) where the groups we were referring to were located. Based on that, they can figure out WHO was being targeted, and how they fell out in the order of battle.
Perfect example: if they figured out, based on the grids, that the first target priority was weapon system X, they know that X needs to be moved more frequently or relocated to make targeting it harder.
Additionally, that log released indicates how we prioritized communications methods, targeted Taliban communications, and showed how easily we're able to hear their iCom chatter. All of these things are very easy to adapt to once you know how you're conducting business. |
this guy works in intel and it is now probably his job to work on the strategic changes that need to be made to operate past what Hamid Gul and the ISI can now make of this. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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i think mr. amin's mustache is far to respectable to belong to such an excitable character.
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unintended consequences: the taliban is searching the wikileaks site for information that would identify people who have collaborated with the americans - it appears the wikileaks people didn't do such a good job of redacting info that would lead to them.
definitely Not Good.
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Darqcyde
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Mizike wrote: | | If you watch/read/listen to the news |
You're making a big assumption. Late in the argument, but I think most americans probably fit into a "Don't know, don't care" type category. I think the intention of wikileaks (I hope) is to remove more people from that category but there's plenty of room to argue how effective that's been.
I don't think what people know or don't know is as much of an issue as compared to how willing they are or are not to actually take the time to learn about things in the mid east AS OPPOSED to the more ubiquitous practice of getting news second hand from rumors, here-say, and plain ol' shitty conjectures from friends, family and co-workers.
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Mizike
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Darqcyde wrote: | | Mizike wrote: | | If you watch/read/listen to the news |
You're making a big assumption. |
Guh.... The people being discussed were consumers of news that does not come from Fox. I made no assumptions.
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nathan
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| mouse wrote: | unintended consequences: the taliban is searching the wikileaks site for information that would identify people who have collaborated with the americans - it appears the wikileaks people didn't do such a good job of redacting info that would lead to them.
definitely Not Good. |
One wonders what the downstream effect will be in intelligence gathering even outside of Afghanistan if the US government is perceived to be incapable of keeping secrets.
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Darqcyde
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| Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:12 am Post subject: |
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| Mizike wrote: | | Darqcyde wrote: | | Mizike wrote: | | If you watch/read/listen to the news |
You're making a big assumption. |
Guh.... The people being discussed were consumers of news that does not come from Fox. I made no assumptions. |
Your assumption is that people are watching news sources but I'm talking about people who form opinions (and possibly vote) and don't watch/read/listen to any news source.
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Sam
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| Wikileaks has posted a massive 1.4 GB heavily encrypted file on it's dedicated "Afghan War Diary" page labeled simply "Insurance". Possibly in response to the harsh rhetoric issuing from the US DoD regarding Julian Assange, the new file was quietly uploaded with no explanation. |
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kame
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| Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:08 am Post subject: |
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| Looks like misdirection, but is it? |
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nathan
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| Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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omg they're gonna make airforce 1 disappear!
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Him
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Anyone looked into the attacks on civilians by NATO troops mentioned in the paper as well as the battles that have happened between supposedly allied afghani and pakistani troops?
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mouse
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Darqcyde wrote: | | Mizike wrote: | | Darqcyde wrote: | | Mizike wrote: | | If you watch/read/listen to the news |
You're making a big assumption. |
Guh.... The people being discussed were consumers of news that does not come from Fox. I made no assumptions. |
Your assumption is that people are watching news sources but I'm talking about people who form opinions (and possibly vote) and don't watch/read/listen to any news source. |
in which case they probably won't hear anything about wikileaks.....
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