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Chocolatefan



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too much reading for a Sunday. I started and then saw it went on for quite a bit. No TLDR summary?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Michael



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am knitting with this high-quality thread.

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You know, if we could somehow convert all of him's ranty articles into clothing I would totally buy it. We could call it a HimVest, or a SinVest, get HimDressed in a SinVest.

we could be the first webcomic forum with its own merchandise outlet

all we need now is more johndoms :/
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When did sweden, norway and denmark "beg" for help?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously, skip the first post, read the second. My link really is quite decent.

Chocolatefan wrote:
Too much reading for a Sunday. I started and then saw it went on for quite a bit. No TLDR summary?

Salvador Allende was the first democratically elected Marxist head of state. This happened in Chile. The US didn't like this so they supported a military coup in which thousands were killed. Allende commited suicide as the presidential palace was being attacked by fighter jets.

Following this, Pinochet came to power. He was a brutal, murderous dictator. He had a lot of people killed, but that was the only thing he was good at. He couldn't fix the economy, so he brought in economists from the Chicago School (so basically Milton Friedman's buds) and took neoliberalism to disturbing new levels. This made the rich richer, the poor even more poor and he claimed victory because the GDP grew a bit.

He was also part of Operation Condor, where South American dictators had thousands of socialists killed, all under the supervision and with the support of the US.

The conclusion is that Pinochet is a cunt. Kissinger is a cunt. The US has been an incredible cunt. And you should feel bad.

Also, stop shitting up the thread, everyone.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Willem wrote:
Also, stop shitting up the thread, everyone.


It was like that when we found it.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Willem wrote:
The conclusion is that Pinochet is a cunt. Kissinger is a cunt. The US has been an incredible cunt. And you should feel bad.


'kay

*adds that to the pile*
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, the more this happens, the more I realise that having Him's support is like having the KKK on your side.
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ShadowCell



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

y'know, in all seriousness and speaking for myself, i was already aware of the CIA-orchestrated coup in Chile in the 70s, and how it led to decades of totalitarian rule and economic hardship for most Chileans. i was not aware that it took place on September 11th--dates are the part of history i suck at--but, err, this strikes me as Him just going all "fuck you, America" on America's enforced national bummerhood day, so i can't say i was ever going to take him seriously anyway.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Willem wrote:
You know, the more this happens, the more I realise that having Him's support is like having the KKK on your side.


Well it's more like having the rabid commies on your side. Which is expected if you're a socialist. Conservatives have to deal with libertarians too.


But honestly, people here have pretty much already accepted that the US government has done some fucking evil shit in the past and present. The number of anti-communism coups that the US supported is pretty fucked up, but shit a few years ago the US military was ordered to torture POW's so excuse everybody for being cynical.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I obviously wouldn't have bothered posting it here - and I didn't - but there we go. Still, it's good to be reminded of stuff like this once in a while.
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Mizike



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Willem wrote:
Well, I obviously wouldn't have bothered posting it here - and I didn't - but there we go. Still, it's good to be reminded of stuff like this once in a while.


I'm with Shadow Cell. I'd bet most Americans on this board either already know about America's hand in Pinochet or would not be surprised by it.

At least, the ones which frequent this subforum.
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Chocolatefan



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey it's always good to learn about something new! I don't go out of my way to read up on stuff like this. Especially since I'm not from the US. We've got our own regional problems to deal with.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pinochet is old hat. All the cool kids are hating on the proclamation of benevolent assimilation (aka "the proc").

We'll flip ya. Flip ya for real.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Willem wrote:
He posted a stupid comic that basically said "hur dur durf, countries say they don't want America to meddle in their affairs but then they need something and they come begging back to america Cool "

And I think he shouldn't have posted that.


Yes, I posted it here originally, then decided this wasn't the place for it, so deleted it within less than a minute of it, and posted it instead in Random Image, as I felt it a better place for it.
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