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Mizike
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You're so late, you've missed your due date.
Seriously though, this came out well before this most recent leak.
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Mr Gary
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My bad, though I am surprised the tabloids over here haven't begun each paragraph with 'renowned rapist, Julian Assange ...'
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Michael
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I think they expect him to run & hide from the authorities in a catch-me-if-you-can way. Then they can report him as an elusive renegade hero which is much more fun
Then again, I've never understood a single thing about tabloids |
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Bart
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| Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Michael wrote: | I think they expect him to run & hide from the authorities in a catch-me-if-you-can way. Then they can report him as an elusive renegade hero which is much more fun
Then again, I've never understood a single thing about tabloids |
I don't think you can become a renegade hero if you're wanted for rape. That sort of stuff only works if your crimes are against "the man". |
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picturesofsky
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Aha, but what if the man is framing you because you made the man look stupid by showing everyone pictures of the man in his frilly undies being fed like a baby by a large busty lady in leather boots?
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CTrees
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| Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr Gary wrote: | | My bad, though I am surprised the tabloids over here haven't begun each paragraph with 'renowned rapist, Julian Assange ...' |
Well, he's no Glenn Beck... Mr. Ass (is it okay to call him that? because I like it as a nickname. whatever, I'm using it now) has denied he raped anyone, while Glenn Beck is proud enough to have yet to deny he raped and murdered a girl in 1990.
Really though, this had all the feeling of a blatant smear campaign on the part of Sweden, so I pretty much dismissed it entirely, but... Interpol, who reviews cases before they issue their red notices, with part of the purpose of that specifically being to avoid getting involved with purely, partisan, political punishment, as a smear effort would be, so... given that, it seems there must be *something.*
Now, this is a question for Guest or Him (and yes, I shudder at typing the latter of those), but Mr. Ass hasn't been charged - the arrest warrant is currently still for questioning, apparently, and he's under arrest in absentia in Sweden, as meaningful as that is. In the US, if the case actually was strong (as again, Interpol taking it would seem to indicate), a grand jury could be convened, he could be charged officially, and then he could be tried in absentia (and his fleeing the country would probably act against him), and potentially convicted, to serve his sentence when he could be caught. As I understand it, he would have to be at least charged, formally, before most countries are willing to extradite him. So, Swedish-'festers, can they not do this in Sweden? Do you know of a reason they wouldn't at least charge him, if they thought he really did it? From an American perspective, if this investigation is all above-board, this just makes no sense.
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Bart
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| Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| In that case the movie ends with the crowds cheering you on when you are finally reunited with your true love. |
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Him
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| Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| CTrees wrote: | | Mr Gary wrote: | | My bad, though I am surprised the tabloids over here haven't begun each paragraph with 'renowned rapist, Julian Assange ...' |
Well, he's no Glenn Beck... Mr. Ass (is it okay to call him that? because I like it as a nickname. whatever, I'm using it now) has denied he raped anyone, while Glenn Beck is proud enough to have yet to deny he raped and murdered a girl in 1990.
Really though, this had all the feeling of a blatant smear campaign on the part of Sweden, so I pretty much dismissed it entirely, but... Interpol, who reviews cases before they issue their red notices, with part of the purpose of that specifically being to avoid getting involved with purely, partisan, political punishment, as a smear effort would be, so... given that, it seems there must be *something.*
Now, this is a question for Guest or Him (and yes, I shudder at typing the latter of those), but Mr. Ass hasn't been charged - the arrest warrant is currently still for questioning, apparently, and he's under arrest in absentia in Sweden, as meaningful as that is. In the US, if the case actually was strong (as again, Interpol taking it would seem to indicate), a grand jury could be convened, he could be charged officially, and then he could be tried in absentia (and his fleeing the country would probably act against him), and potentially convicted, to serve his sentence when he could be caught. As I understand it, he would have to be at least charged, formally, before most countries are willing to extradite him. So, Swedish-'festers, can they not do this in Sweden? Do you know of a reason they wouldn't at least charge him, if they thought he really did it? From an American perspective, if this investigation is all above-board, this just makes no sense. |
Given the back-and-forths of the case I am surprised it hasn't been dropped. I am not sure if you can actually get sentenced in absentia in sweden. None of my lawyer educated friends are online but I'll look into it.
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Guest
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| Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| CTrees wrote: | | Now, this is a question for Guest or Him (and yes, I shudder at typing the latter of those), but Mr. Ass hasn't been charged - the arrest warrant is currently still for questioning, apparently, and he's under arrest in absentia in Sweden, as meaningful as that is. In the US, if the case actually was strong (as again, Interpol taking it would seem to indicate), a grand jury could be convened, he could be charged officially, and then he could be tried in absentia (and his fleeing the country would probably act against him), and potentially convicted, to serve his sentence when he could be caught. As I understand it, he would have to be at least charged, formally, before most countries are willing to extradite him. So, Swedish-'festers, can they not do this in Sweden? Do you know of a reason they wouldn't at least charge him, if they thought he really did it? From an American perspective, if this investigation is all above-board, this just makes no sense. |
Frankly I'm a bit confused about the case myself. Reading about it you start to scritch your head eventually, because it makes no sense. The case was dismissed twice for lack of evidence, at one point the rape charges were dropped and instead he was investigated for 'minor' offenses like sexual harassment among other things and now the rape allegations are back.
As for him leaving the country, according to what I've read, he was actually given permission to leave the country. By the prosecutor Marianne Ny herself.
For all intents and purposes, the case should have been dropped already.
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zeezee
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| Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr Gary wrote: | | 'renowned rapist, Julian Assange ...' |
i read that at first as "renowned rape artist'
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Monkey Mcdermott
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It isnt rape as in he battered some woman held her down and had his way with her, the accusations are more of a sleazeball nature. He wouldnt stop when the condom broke and they asked him to type situation
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Him
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| Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| Monkey Mcdermott wrote: | | It isnt rape as in he battered some woman held her down and had his way with her, the accusations are more of a sleazeball nature. He wouldnt stop when the condom broke and they asked him to type situation |
I haven't heard any specifics of the actual charges, but yeah that would still be rape. Supposedly he did have some kind of relationship tot the two women involved, in any case.
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Monkey Mcdermott
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| Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:59 am Post subject: |
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Yes, it is still rape, however its a bit more believable a situation than that that scrawny blonde fucker is a stalking battering rapist.
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Samsally
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| Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:15 am Post subject: |
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| zeezee wrote: | | Mr Gary wrote: | | 'renowned rapist, Julian Assange ...' |
i read that at first as "renowned rape artist'
weird |
That is officially the creepiest mental image Sinfest has given me in years.
That is actually saying a lot, too. |
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