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Dogen · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 9287 Location: Bellingham, WA

I don't really give a fuck about his airplane window comment. I'm more surprised that it's 2012 and we have a second Republican candidate whose (current) campaign approach to health care for those in need is "go to the ER." It was both economically and socially irresponsible when Bush said it, and it's just as much if not more so now, given Romney's forays into health care reform. Presumably he recognized the need for more than just emergency care at some point, but now he's on the stump as a social conservative. Rolling Eyes

Ironically, in 2006 and 2007, Romney referred to an "epiphany" that led him to realize that reliance on emergency room care raised costs. That's why he devised the Massachusetts model, to move care out of ERs and into primary care, where it's more affordable (partially because people go before they're on deaths door and need thousands upon thousands of dollars in procedures and care).
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Sam · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 8835

CTrees · Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 3611

Dogen, I would find Romney's policy shifts hilarious if it weren't for the fact that close to half of America thinks this guy is the best choice for fucking president of the country, which can accurately be described as terrifying.
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Kilgore · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 2827 Location: Portland, Or

Dogen · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 9287 Location: Bellingham, WA

I'm troubled by this apparently being an unofficial Republican platform. Mitch McConnell has said words to the same effect. That makes three top Republicans that I know of who have suggested emergency rooms as a first resort. I'd love to be able to ask them how they think that effects patient outcomes and health care costs, but sadly (sort of) I live in a pretty blue state... Republicans never stump here. Well, Rick Santorum came during the primaries, but that doesn't really count.
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Kilgore · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 2827 Location: Portland, Or

"We concede the necessity of some form of socialized medicine, but insist that it be as cruel, inefficient, and expensive as possible."
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Dogen · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 9287 Location: Bellingham, WA

I'm not exactly hopeful, but if this election is a referendum on Obamacare, I'd like to see some shift on the right as a result. Right now it looks like the electoral map will be almost exactly like 2008 (except for Indiana and North Carolina), so maybe that will be impetus for re-imagining how they think about health care. Maybe.
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ShadowCell · Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Posts: 5251 Location: California

not this cycle. the right can just blame the mushy inoffensive "most electable" moderate they were eventually talked into nominating by the Wise Old Men of the party, and insist that they'll win next time if they nominate a real conservative, and then they'll nominate someone who's completely batshit insane, like Santorum, and he'll get crushed.

and after that, i don't know what happens.

Sam · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 8835

re: the response to Romney's quote — considering the furiousness with which that quote has been propagated (apparently without context) and the rapidity with which it has become a Romney is Stupid theme has indicated to me that by now the Romney campaign has completely lost control of general media narrative and is at this point generally assailed, with the tone of most articles being the question of "Does Romney have a chance of recovering the damage he has done to his image and his campaign?"

Like the idea has become so prominent that he has jacked his campaign so hard by now that it's only really a question of what mistake he's going to make next that hammer more superfluous nails into the coffin.

No big issue with me, of course. I shorted romney and went long on obama when obama was at about 51 on Intrade.

mouse · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 15446 Location: under the bed

Willem · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 6306 Location: wasteland style

Dogen · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 9287 Location: Bellingham, WA

Hey wait a minute I use tha-- fuck.
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ShadowCell · Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Posts: 5251 Location: California

i never use that emoticon. can i be a total condescending dick anyways?

Willem · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 6306 Location: wasteland style

maybe i didn't see you guys use it ever think of that?

anyway, isn't the whole 'The Stench' thing a bigger issue than his maybe-maybe not dumb comment about planes?
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mouse · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 15446 Location: under the bed

what stench thing?
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