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Bear Grylls is a pandering wannabe.
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Thy Brilliance



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:23 pm    Post subject: Because you're qualified to do so. Reply with quote

You should consider his best interests before saying that.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thy Brilliance wrote:
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In order to survive the ratings system, science channels have to resort to "lying" to attract an audience. This is the reality.
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But when you dig just a bit deeper, the reality is much more inconvenient and involves actual work and complex social issues.

I disagree that they must "resort"to lying to attract an audience. I agree that reality is actual work and complex. This is why I place blame at the feet of people like Bear Grylls because he is perpetuating the kind of programming that hurts science based shows. Mythbusters is on the right track but they occasionally piss me off by not using proper science (or using basic formulas to create experiments that have unarguable results). However, they are on the right track and have a huge audience without lying.

Anyone who lies is just taking an easy way out to get an audience and I find it reprehensible.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean, without the explosions, would as many people watch mythbusters.

It may not be dishonest per say, but it's pretty biased in favor of more explosions.

Is there really no better way to get attention?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a difference between trying to "make science fun" and maybe dumbing it down too much and presenting stupid false information that might get someone killed.

This is clearly not the forum for you.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thy Brilliance wrote:
Is there really no better way to get attention?

Why knock what works? And just because explosions work doesn't preclude other methods (see Alton Brown).

As I said earlier, when the entertainment factor becomes more important than the educational factor the show is no longer educational. That doesn't mean the entertainment factor is unimportant.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

but you see it is marketed as entertainment, so
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lasairfiona wrote:
Thy Brilliance wrote:
Is there really no better way to get attention?

Why knock what works? And just because explosions work doesn't preclude other methods (see Alton Brown).

As I said earlier, when the entertainment factor becomes more important than the educational factor the show is no longer educational. That doesn't mean the entertainment factor is unimportant.



I'd say you can always learn information from anything regardless of the entertainment factor, but that's just crazy ol me.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree especially when I would have to look up all the information to check what is true and what isn't. Therefore I am learning from my research, not from the show. An entertaining educational show should inspire one to want to learn more, not just relearn what you learned.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BLOW IT UP! BLOW IT ALL UP!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.supersexycpr.com/

Is it possible to be educated if I have a boner?

I better drink my own piss.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bear Grylls is shit, Ray Mears is shit, Steve Irwin was shit. And if you don't like Bush Tucker Man over all those idiots then you're shit.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 cans, per man, per day. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dazedb42 wrote:
2 cans, per man, per day. Wink


of piss?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snorri wrote:
dazedb42 wrote:
2 cans, per man, per day. Wink


of piss?


roger that, the bush tucker man was an army major tasked with documenting edible and medicinal plants over the top end of Australia. 2cans etc was one his mantras. Great show.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're all right, Dazed. You're all right.
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