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Monkey Mcdermott · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 2717

The difference being we already restrict which businesses children of a certain age can go. Slippery slope arguments kind of fail here. I'll be pretty happy when people realize that squirting out a kid here or there is only REALLY special for them and their family and expecting the rest of the world to treat them as some sort of special treasure when there are 7billionish people on the planet is unrealistic.
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Darqcyde · Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:29 pm Post subject:

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mouse · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 15446 Location: under the bed

i don't know, but i suspect most of the men/women only places are really tailored to some specific desire in that demographic - women-only gyms, for example, for women who want to focus on exercising without worrying how they might appear to males, or barbershops/salons that want to focus on just male or female styling - things that are filling a reasonable demand. but as andrew points out - if they aren't appealing to a sufficiently large customer base, they will go out of business, so you'd want to be sure you had enough potential customers in a limited pool before you did that. (i think a lot of why civil rights succeeded was because, once they calmed down about having "those other people" in their stores, businessmen realized they had increased their pool of potential customers.)

but it certainly sounds like there is a good customer base to support places that put restrictions on children.
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Thy Brilliance · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 3213 Location: Relative

Thy Brilliance · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 3213 Location: Relative

Mr Gary · Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:16 am Post subject:

I don't know you guys, next you'll be saying I can't take my kids to the titty bar. And then how am I going to pay the rent?
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Thy Brilliance · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 3213 Location: Relative

Mr Gary · Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:34 am Post subject:

They certainly have the 'facilities' to feed kids of all ages.
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Martian Kyo · Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 1447

I say this is just laziness on a few levels.

Laziness of parents to control their kids...also known as bad parenting

Laziness on part of companies for real customer care. They don't want to handle the problem case by case, instead of communicating and handling each case of a screaming child they just ban children. Solving things with general policies never works out well.

Maybe the percentage of annoying children is not that high maybe only 30% of children annoy other people, but we remember that 30% more vividly. You never remember a baby that slept through the entire flight (probably cause you didn't even noticed the kid).

Again I say this is an example of bad parenting and bad customer care.
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Dogen · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 9287 Location: Bellingham, WA

Don't be thick. Screaming kids don't equate to bad parents. All children have tantrums, even the children of the best parents in the world. That's just what kids do as they try to learn to deal with the world around them. Which is why it's okay to ban them from places that want to maintain a particular atmosphere: you can't control whether they go off at dinner, no matter how good a parent you are. I've got two little brothers who are a great deal younger than me, and you could plan as hard as you liked to keep them happy - favorite outfit, favorite toy, favorite snack - and sometimes it still went sideways. Being a good parent doesn't mean your kid never cries, it means you reinforce proper behaviors by responding appropriately when they do. That's totally unrelated to whether you're in a fancy restaurant, a grocery store, or your own child beating gymnasium in the basement.
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E-boy · Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:42 am Post subject:

Thy Brilliance · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 3213 Location: Relative

And what about the good kids that do what they are told?
Who represents them in this situation?

E-boy · Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:46 am Post subject:

and yes I brought up market corrections first, but that was on a much lower level (Kids not being allowed instead of wholesale ethnic/gender discrimination). I'm still of two minds about the kid thing and I don't find it as disturbing as the things you brought up. Interesting how that re-framing affected my feelings though.
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