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bitflipper · Joined: 09 Jul 2011 Posts: 728 Location: Here and Now

Not trying to discount your experience of others and their parenting techniques, Darq--I have to admit I've seen some of the same poor parental control and discipline, myself--but, kids are capable of choosing to behave or misbehave on their own, too. It doesn't all fall squarely on the parents' shoulders, even if the parents are pathetically inadequate in meeting the requirements of parenthood.
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cixelsyD · Joined: 09 Oct 2010 Posts: 1301

She shouldn't have gotten a tattoo of my name is she was that afraid to commit!
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cixelsyD · Joined: 09 Oct 2010 Posts: 1301

I'm holding out for more money.
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kame · Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 2563 Location: Alba Nuadh

I believe many of the problems that children present in public and private spaces could be solved if we held the parent accountable for the child's behavior in a meaningful way. Such measures could include flogging, tar and feathering, caning or some other historic corrective measure for morons who don't know how to be civil in public.

LD! · Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:55 pm Post subject:

Why not engineer a social stigma in society against them acting out?

Dogen · Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 9324 Location: Bellingham, WA

People aren't very good at enforcing most social stigmas. Milgram found that only ten percent of people made the slightest noise when someone said, "I have to get in here," and stepped in front of them in a line (such as at a grocery store or post office). It requires a lot of reinforcement to get people as a whole to respond the same to most any behavior in others (unless the behavior you want is for them to do nothing - that's what most people do already). If the person commiting the stigmatized behavior isn't influenced by the mere presence of the stigma, no one bothers to correct them.

Plus, it's hard to engineer social stigma. Stetson Kennedy tried it in the 40s with "frown power," with little if any success.

How random I've become.
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Thy Brilliance · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 3213 Location: Relative

You might say there's a stigma against those who enforce social stigma.

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Lasairfiona · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:35 pm Post subject:

Just try telling someone that there is some research that spanking leads to more aggressive behavior then receive a lecture of about an hour and a half about how the black community _has_ to spank their kids or they end up in jail.
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