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Inept Villain



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm afraid that I must apologize then. It was partly due to my crass comments that the debate turned sourly towards the specifics of Irwin's death.

I never liked the man, and I did not enjoy watching him piss off deadly animals by poking them in eye or what have you. Did you ever look into the Irwin's eyes for that matter? He stared at us from a magical world which only he inhabited. Despite that... I *am* sorry that he met his end so tragically. You might say I expected better of him, since he was so renowned for his work. It sounds odd to say he deserved a more dramatic death, but really, he did. You'd think facing deadly poison, powerful jaws, and razor sharp claws every day at work would require the guy to have at least some rudimentary medical knowledge.
It's easy to say that shock could have dulled his wits, but I have trouble buying that. From what I understand he nimbly evaded many ferocious beasts with the same crazily unconcerned smile on his face each time.

I am not happy that he died, and I had no intention of dishonoring his memory. Still, the WORST thing you can do with a stab wound (especially to a vital organ) is yank the offending sharp-thingy out! Bah... he should have known better! That's all I'm saying. I donít think I was out of line.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had heard one of Irwin's associates mentioned that him and Irwin used to joke that if Irwin was going to die in an accident with an animal, it was going to happen in the ocean. Irwin wasn't as comfortable there as humans cannot move quickly in water. He felt that his agility and ability to read animals was why he did so well on land.

As an aside, IV, you really are not apologizing at all. You are using this as another opportunity to bash a dead man who never had a chance of survival after being stabbed through the heart with a nurotoxin barb. Let it go.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why should I listen to you? You're hitler!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Says Feit!!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agamemnon wrote:
Says Feit!!!!


...

what?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This situation calls for only one thing. Monkeys on unicycles with cheese and mushroom soup.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...


Two things...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:23 pm    Post subject: Re: neptude Reply with quote

Agamemnon wrote:
mouse wrote:
well, but where, exactly, in the heart was he stabbed? dead center, piercing multiple chambers? or was it perhaps just in the pericardium, or maybe nicking a vessel? we seem to be assuming that the ray plugged him with the accuracy of annie oakley shooting pips on cards, but that might not have been the case.


Um...you know, it doesn't really matter. Do you know how fact a puncture to any small part of the heart will bleed? My dad had an artery "nicked" while on manuvers in Gitmo before I was born. He describes a stream of blood squirting out of his arm at the elbow in excess of one foot. And that's just a really small artery way away from the heart.


why, yes, actually, i do. any time you have an opening in a blood vessel, it tends to bleed. which is why people hasten to plug up that hole, to stop it from bleeding.

or, you know, you could just leave the thing that made the wound in there, so it keeps the hole plugged up.

so you don't bleed out.

the way you do when you _open_ the wound.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snorri wrote:
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Two things...
ONLY TO THE FETTED AND UNFOCUSED MIND.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ag wrote:
I do not recall any instance of anybody surviving a stabbing wound to the heart.

I recall several, there was one featured on 999.

Of course, your chances aren't very good and the whole discussion is ridiculous since someone who's just been stabbed in the heart by a stingray is unlikely to way up the options in the same way as a bunch of nerds conducting a debate on the internet.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

999 -- is that the british emergency #, like 911 in the u.s.?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, we like to keep things simple. It was also a slightly ghoulish show presented by Michael Burke which re-enacted calls to the emergency services.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok -- thanks.

but you got nothin' on us for ghoulish... "emergency 911" was hosted by captain kirk

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in fact, so was the first incarnation of "iron chef america"




...*shudder*
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought it was called "Rescue 911" and Bill Shatner set the dramatic table liberally. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if by "set the table liberally" you mean "put the salad forks upright in the middle of the seat cushions and sat honking clowns on the plates"

then, yes.
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