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Samsally



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jwing get's extra badass points for being Jwing.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From age 12, I was determined to get a hysterectomy on my 26th birthday. I didn't want kids. It's not that I didn't like them - I was the default babysitter for most of the families in my neighbourhood. I just didn't want to go through all that icky stuff that getting kids involved.

Cliche' as it sounds, GeekBoy changed my mind. Our first date was babysitting my nephews, including a baby several months old. It was supposed to be easy - the boys were asleep already when my sister and her husband left for their date. The baby, however, woke up about fifteen minutes after they left and cried. and cried and cried and cried and cried. no matter what we did, he cried. (turns out my nephew had an ear ache) But throughout it all, GeekBoy was calm and supportive and just wonderful. I realized if I had someone like that as a partner, maybe that whole parenting thing wouldn't be so bad. (trivia: we were married on the anniversary of our first date)

The first pregnancy ended in miscarriage. I nearly died. I think I've told the story before. It wasn't pleasant. The second pregnancy was borderline placenta previa and I nearly lost it a couple of times. Wing1 was born c-section because on her due date she turned completely around and sat on the cervix, refusing to move. I had a cold and coughed so hard after the birth that I tore internal stitches. I still have the scar from the c-section. The last pregnancy was the worst. Sickness and exhaustion throughout, and wing1 must have put sticky notes for wing1, highlighting the spots that got the biggest reaction from me. Every kick and motion was exaggerated. As much as I love my children, I don't want to go through that again.

Wing1 has declared herself asexual. Wing2 is transgender. My chances of being a grandmother are slim to none. I'm sad about that beause I would love to knit stuff and play with little kids and hold babies again but being a grandparent isn't my choice. Whatever they choose, as long as they're happy, I'm happy.

Besides my neices and nephews are plenty and seem to want to do the tradional stuff. I'll just be the eccentric great-aunt who introduces them to esoteric stuff. The Mame to their grandparents' Dwight Babcock, if you will.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just be careful sliding down the banister rail, jwing. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is Wing2?

Also, is Wing1 still planning to become a Viking?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry to hear about your miscarriage, jwing, my brother and sister-in-law have just experienced that themselves, and I can see first hand how devastating it can be. And while I can appreciate the disappointment your children's sexuality (for lack of a better term) might bring you in terms of having grandchildren, it brings me comfort that we live in a world where such choices are accepted and even more so that you, as their mother, can find happiness in your children being happy being who they are. YOu are truly a source of inspiration and hope that maybe the world isn't as hopeless as it seems.


mind you, this is all in spite of the fact that wing1 being 18 makes me feel incredibly old. I'm not sure I can forgive you for that.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dogen wrote:
Also, is Wing1 still planning to become a Viking?


I missed this, and that is sad for it is awesome.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imm just leave this here: http://news.yahoo.com/porn-myth-uncovering-truth-sex-stars-122610225.html

Basically the article focuses on why getting cold, hard data (no pun intended) on the porn industry is so tricky.
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Dogen



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's interesting, but Kross makes a good point. You have to take self-report data with a certain amount of skepticism, such as when porn stars (who sell the idea of women wanting sex all the time) tell you they get 10/10 pleasure from sex. Still neat to have someone do a little number crunching on porn stars, or any other marginalized population.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is almost impossible to read that article without reading in lots of double entendres.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How old are your kids, jwing? I was still thinking they were young'uns, but there's a fair chance the last I got a read on their ages was back on the old forum.

Kids getting older is always surprising to me. For some reason I just file that age bit as a static number, instead of mentally updating. It's going to be interesting how that works out when I have kids...

EDIT: Going back a page answered this. I really don't spend much time in this thread... Although on that note:

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Considering my bizarre and deep rooted fear of being pregnant


This sounds like my wife. She's terrified of the whole idea of being pregnant. And yet, we both want kids (now - it's gone from neither of us being big on the idea of kids to both actively wanting to reproduce). But yeah, that particular anxiety is quite similar to hers. It's going to be an interesting experience when we start trying...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The concept of being pregnant is not scary to me. The after-effects, that is the actually having kids part, is the part that is terrifying.
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Samsally



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This reads like how I feel about the comic subforum most days.
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Dogen



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've actually got a few really good new people over there right now making insightful arguments. They're still outnumbered by stupid people and people like KDX, but it's nice to read a post and think, "Holy shit, you're... you're a person who speaks in complete sentences and says things I agree with..."

Naturally I haven't spoken to any of them because I've spent so long arguing with misogynists and ignorant idiots that I don't know how to say nice things and agree with people anymore.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:10 pm    Post subject: At least I'm not petty. Reply with quote

Sam wrote:
Thy Brilliance wrote:

Also Sam, aren't you tired of the anti-Thy propaganda yet? Would you mind peddling your smut elsewhere while we try to stay on a non meta topic?


Meta, anti-thy propaganda, you say. You mean you make bullshit claims, get caught on them, then stumble forward without reconciling your own bullshit for anyone. It's only meta in the sense that the bullshit you are peddling now is pretty much the exact same bullshit you peddled before, and it just goes to show that you don't learn and people should be actively aware of your habits, re: being a lying bullshitter.

You got caught flat-out doing it before and brought to task for it. You're getting caught doing the same thing here, and you're being brought to task for it. I'm glad you think it's meta-level anti-you propaganda to get caught, because you otherwise show no understanding of the fact that, as i said, you proved you are not credible and your statements and experience cannot be taken as credible at face value, and you are a dodgy untrustworthy 'sourcer.'

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But I really can't take someone seriously when they try to suggest that all parents should have enough time to spend with their children.


Yeah man good thing nobody made that claim, instead people just pointed out how the things you have suggested or claimed about blue collar workers was untrue, and then you put up a source as though it were the slam-dunk BAM CHECK IT OUT I WAS RIGHT but then when people read the source it wasn't saying anything you claimed. Now you're contorting and saying essentially 'well i was suggesting a myriad of factors'

I'll give it a shot too. Myself, I can't take someone seriously when they say that a blue collar parent literally does not have time for an important conversation with their kid, because it's bullshit. I further can't take that person seriously when they then, in the shadow of said bullshit, try to hedge their life experience about non-privileged children that you done seen with your own eyes, and tell people off saying why don't you go to the slums and see for yourself.

Eiden's quote goes a long way here. You can't be trusted to have a rational understanding of what you are doing and we can't trust your interpretations. The end



It must be very inconvenient for you to have someone like me around.

I dare say, you have a habit of tiptoeing around the issues, you try avoid any controversial topics if possible, you generally spew 100% politically correct bullshit.

All for the purpose of maintaining your pompous image.

That's why you resort to this hit and run posting style, because ultimately, you simply don't care about the argument, you care more about what you look like to other people.

That's why a person like me, no matter how irrationally I behave, no matter how ridiculous my argument is, will always be more legitimate than you.

And it must burn you up knowing that.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go away Thy.
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