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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really really liked Iron Man 3. Pepper and Maya are definitely a huge part of why, a long with a dash of "holy shit they addressed real life anxiety in a way that wasn't belittling or overly melodramatic." thrown in.

Pepper is just my favorite though. I want a Pepper Pots movie where she, Black Widow, Jane, and Darcy fuck shit up while snarking about the rest of the Avengers constantly. With extra sass.
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This made me think of a bunch of the ladies here: http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/advisor/overlooked-female-demographic-panks-183101717.html
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



Merida’s Disney Princess Controversial Makeover – Is ‘Brave’ Heroine Really Bad for Little Girls?
By Leslie Gornstein | Movie Talk – 3 hours ago
http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/merida-disney-princess-controversial-makeover-brave-heroine-really-224924634.html
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Burning Question: Will the redesign of Disney's Merida negatively affect my daughter's development? Will the sudden appearance of a thinner, sexier version of a cartoon hurt a girl's self-esteem? -- Clara K.

Short answer: Yep.

In case you've been living at the bottom of a loch, the heroine of the animated film "Brave" got a wee bit of a makeover recently. The feisty Scottish archer lass, who debuted at a healthy fighting weight last year, now, inexplicably, has a a sultrier pout, a skinnier waist and a more revealing décolleté. (Stay classy, imagineers.)

The change was unveiled this month, to coordinate with Merida's official crowning as Disney's 11th-ever princess. Or something.
Whatever. Child development experts are not amused, and neither am I.

"This one character may not do any damage to a girl's psychological development, per se," child development expert Dr. Robyn Silverman tells me. "But Merida joins a barrage of thin, sultry characters for girls, making her yet another facet of our sexed-up, thinned down messaging."

Silverman points out that the original Merida "was beloved for her adventurous spirit, her unique look and her disinterest in romance as her 'goal' in life. Her allure was not physical--which sent a strong message to girls that they could be who they are-- and still be beautiful, brave and confident.

"This redesign seems to stick a square peg into a round hole."

Or just a skinnier body into a size-2 gown.

However, just because your daughter's psychological development -- say, the evolution of her conscience at around age 4 -- won't be affected, doesn't mean that Merida's redesign isn't dangerous. It is -- to a girl's self-esteem. Experts see those as two different things. But both are crucial.

"I would say that Brave is aimed at kids ages 5 to 10," mulls Betsy Brown Braun, also a childhood behavior and development specialist. "That's prime territory for being affected in terms of body image. I don't think this one makeover is going to be earth shattering all by itself, but it's an element that contributes to the overall picture.

"We're seeing body image issues with children as young as 7 years old -- young children who say they're on a diet or that they think they're fat. There's a lot of data showing that children that age already identify with a saucy, sexy image."

Such as, say, the new, hot-cha-cha Merida? Let's hope not.

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, that's a downgrade.

...partly the art is just bad in the new version. And I hate the dress.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never never never never never understand the need of designers to change a character aimed at kids into someone sexier. It's like they don't even think what kids want, just what they want.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yinello wrote:
I never never never never never understand the need of designers to change a character aimed at kids into someone sexier. It's like they don't even think what kids want, just what they want.


WHAT THE FUCK DID THEY DO TO HER EYES?!

I actually mean this seriously, I can't figure out what they changed, but something about her face just looks WRONG in the second picture. Like there's some sort of uncanny valley effect and it is REALLY bugging me. I think it's her eyes...
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They closed them a little and curved them more, and slanted slightly. So she looks like she is either sleepy or ready to fuck, rather than alert and happy.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They added a bunch of dark eye liner, too.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gave her a bit more hair, too - it's longer and fuller now.

the bit about the eyes is interesting, though - they change her face from a girl's to a woman's.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The after picture makes me want to go out and buy shampoo. And get a facelift.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my reactions go something like

Before: oh hey a cute fun-looking adventure girl, super alert and ready for an adventure

After: DEAR LORD I MUST DESTROY THIS ARTWORK WITH FIRE



that doesn't even have anything to do with the social implications or whatever, that's how much I hate the art style
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It also goes COMPLETELY against her character in the movie. After all, she wanted to be independent and free, not a 'prize' for people to ogle at.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get why other people don't like it, but when I saw it my impression was simply, "Looks like someone sucks at drawing Merida" or thinking it looked like a knock-off version that some cheap company would put on the box of a generic toy to avoid paying royalties to Disney, but capitalize on the likeness.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heh - you should write disney a letter like that - "hey, i think someone is trying to do a knock-off of merida, it's got this really bad artwork so i know it can't be real" - maybe that will make them reconsider.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel like the recent redesign of ALL the princesses looks a bit like a badly done knock-off. "Maybe they won't notice if we add some glitter. Girls like glitter, right?"
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