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Thy Brilliance



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lasairfiona wrote:
Cards!!! I am a card junkie. But SOOO PRETTY!



They aren't anywhere near their goal but yeah, I'm dropping some money just in case.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2031961868/pippoglyph-ii-playing-cards



Wait a minute here.

They missed their goal deadline here, so what happened to that money?

Did it transfer over to the next one, or what?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't reach the goal, you don't get the money. That's the whole point of kickstarter - you ask around, see if people are interested, and if there's not enough interest to garner the funds necessary to complete the project, no one's out anything.

The "next one" is an entirely new campaign.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The company still takes a percent of that money though, regardless of whether it is funded or not.

If I'm not mistaken.

So I'm curious as to what percent you get back.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're mistaken.

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Every project creator sets their project's funding goal and deadline. If people like the project, they can pledge money to make it happen. If the project succeeds in reaching its funding goal, all backers' credit cards are charged when time expires. If the project falls short, no one is charged. Funding on Kickstarter is all-or-nothing.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh good god, the Name of the Wind cards is over half a million.

This is because now the company making the cards is giving 10% of the company, not the profits - the company, to Worldbuilders - the Patrick Rothfuss charity event that supports Heifer International.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never herd of that organization beefore.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heifer international? they've been around a while. they give livestock (and i guess now other things) to people in impoverished places, along with training in how to care for them. the people who get the animals agree to pass on some of the offspring of their animals to others. so it helps people improve their nutrition, get some income, and (ideally) build their community. brilliant idea, i think.

i don't know anything about worldbuilders.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worldbuilders is essentially a once or twice a year fundraiser run by Patrick Rothfuss to raise money for Heifer International. He gives away a bunch of signed books and things like that for the donation levels.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Preface: I'm fairly tipsy


Anyway, fuck Kickstarter

Why?

browsing sucks, and there's no reason for it. Basically, unless it's already popular, or one of their "staff choices", it won't get funded.

period.

What IF I want to casually browse through ALL of the current project available?

Kickstarter sucks balls for this, and to me, this makes it nothing more than a popularity contest.

It's like voting for student council in high school. It's not like you're actually voting for someone who's going to have any REAL influence on your daily school life, you're just choosing form a select few elite. Similarly, if the groups seeking funding from Kickstarter don't already have large fan bases, or receive the coveted "staff picks" then they don't get funded.

As a supporter, or potential supporter, the burden of keeping abreast of new projects SHOULD NOT lie with me; I shouldn't HAVE TO go there everyday to check out new projects. If I want to go once or twice a month, I shouldn't be penalized in my option I have.

But that' how Kickstarter makes me feel. And it makes me hate them.

Fuck you, assholes, fuck you.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go home Darq, you're drunk.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

james cameron's kickstarter to teach people how to make bearing ball bombs just cleared the 2mil mark
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, no he's right.

The responsibility for finding things he wants to kickstarter shouldn't be on him. It just shouldn't be on kickstarter either, if you're gonna go beggin for money/looking for investors its kinda on the person asking to get the word out.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You think people should be responsible for their own advertising?

DAT'S CRAZY TALK.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eh... I've donated to a few kickstarters now, and not a single one of them was because I saw it on kickstarter's front page first.

(Most of 'em were for artists I was already following on tumblr or twitter.)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samsally wrote:
Eh... I've donated to a few kickstarters now, and not a single one of them was because I saw it on kickstarter's front page first.

(Most of 'em were for artists I was already following on tumblr or twitter.)


Ok I've napped and sobered up a bit.

All I'm really asking for is the ability to readily and easily browse any and all projects in need of funding.

The question is: why doesn't it have this feature.

Invoking Occam, it seems like their current setup is designed to make them seem more successful at financing people's projects then they really are.
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