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2012-06-17: Empathy
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Yorick



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MerchManDan wrote:
What's the safe word, Kinky Pie?

Yorick wrote:
Also where is this force garbage coming from? people have sex for a variety of reasons, desire isn't always there.
I think - not 100% sure - that's Estranged's point: Sex without desire is forced sex. And that's bad.

that sounds like the voice of someone who's never had to work for anything.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.....what? Why would a person "who's never had to work for anything" believe that "sex without desire is forced sex?" I don't see the connection.
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Heretical Rants



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neither do I. uhhhh...

Maybe Yorick's saying that "sex without desire is forced sex" could be considered akin to the argument "a job you don't want is slavery" in the context of the porn industry.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys, remember when this webcomic was fun before turning into an anti-porn moralistic propaganda? I miss those days.

MerchManDan wrote:

Anyhow, what I got from this strip is that porn - regardless of source or genre - saps people's empathy, making them callous towards those within the porn itself & gradually turning them (the viewers) into monsters. So yeah, there is a strong chance we're being preached at.


That's exactly what I thought.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was going to complain about the preachiness of this comic, but then I realized that I didn't really care.

Brb making moar of teh pr0nz
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys, remember when Sinfest was politically correct?

Nope, neither do I.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's see. Slick can't be in a relationship with Monique, he can't be with any of the other girls in the Sinfest universe and it's immoral if he uses porn.
It seems that the only moral way for Slick to continue his... existence is to become a hermit.

It's funny that Monique's behaviour has never fallen under such scrutiny and self-imposed guilt. Can anyone show me a strip where she feels guilty for breaking someone's heart?

It's true that right now she goes against her femininity and I just see this taking away feminine power from her, making her socially crippled and unhappy. The equivalent would be for Slick to become some sort of abstinence monk. And what's the point of this self-bashing and supressing our sexuality, going against natural feminine and masculine desires? It seems there won't be post-patriarchy sexy times, only bleak sexless serious cold-faced feminist drones.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're depressing. I'm a feminist (or feminist supporter, if you prefer) and I've had plenty of sexy times.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Estranged wrote:
And what's the point of this self-bashing and supressing our sexuality, going against natural feminine and masculine desires?


I'm pointing this out because it's basically saying I'm unnatural.

Way to be a dick.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dogen wrote:
You're depressing. I'm a feminist (or feminist supporter, if you prefer) and I've had plenty of sexy times.


You obviously are a happy (i.e. not depressing) and social person - qualities that have a high sexual value for women. Feminism accepts as valid only female sexual priorities and if you successfully conform to them, you will obviously be one of the survivors.
Good for you!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha. You're such a ludicrous dick. I hope that "I was born to be sexist" thing works wherever you're from. I prefer to see the world as a collection of individuals rather than trying to stuff everyone in a label. Women here appreciate being thought of as people, not just a label.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samsally wrote:
Estranged wrote:
And what's the point of this self-bashing and supressing our sexuality, going against natural feminine and masculine desires?


I'm pointing this out because it's basically saying I'm unnatural.

Way to be a dick.

Responding to something that angers you with violence is natural, so maybe that's what you've been doing wrong.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm. Living in a state of nature, eh? A la John Locke? I like it. I can kill people because it's my nature. None of this "calculated risk-taking behavior in response to a lack of pro-social opportunities" nonsense. Everybody is as they appear! Watch out, motherfuckers, I like your stereo and it's wrong to suppress my urges!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At first I was like, "hey look, a strip about porn that didn't spawn an argument!" But then someone had to go making broad generalizations and I thought, "silence is consent," so here we go again! Sorry, folks.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I appreciate it Dogen.

I keep thinking "I really should say something...." and then I put it off because... well, you nailed it, really. It's just depressing.
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