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Maynar
Joined: 26 Jan 2011
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| Quote: | | What would "Bacon Porn" be, anyway, nude women posing/"frolicking" in giant frying pans or on top of giant hamburger patties on a giant grill? That's probably out there somewhere... |
Naw, it's better than that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=S0JSTsZp5hk
I need to go to sleep now.
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Yinello
Joined: 10 May 2012
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Location: Behind you
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Why no date? Por favor add one posthaste.
Ah porn, where one desperately hopes and pretends that in all of the videos the women (and some men) could become anything they wanted to and in the end chose the career of sex. And not that they had to for money.
In other news, I'm enjoying my holiday! Hmm shirts and jogging pants. <3
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Estranged
Joined: 01 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Exploitation of poor desperate women
Economic coercion |
This is a lie, but even if we accept that it's true, it falls flat.
1) Everybody is coerced economically. We are coerced to exchange services so that society can work.
If some women are desperate for money, some men are desperate for sex. Hence, both participants are better off, otherwise there wouldn't be a deal.
2) Feminists don't care about what the "coerced" actually think. They just want to destroy their livelihood.
Recently, the government of some 2.5 world country, influenced by feminist demands, started catching sex workers and making them work in... garment sweatshops - very hard and low paid work, but the important thing is that it's much more morally acceptable, right? I'm sure the sex workers are very grateful.
As one porn actress put it, those "anti-sex work" feminists are actually "anti-sex workER" feminists, because they want to take away these people's way of making a living.
| Quote: | Systemic inequality
Gendered opression |
What is systemic inequality, the fact that because of the burden of potential pregnancy women need protection and need to filter their candidates with a higher scrutiny? The fact that this makes them the selectors in the sexual game?
Female sexuality has been empowering in matriarchal cultures, where sex workers even worked in temples of goddesses.
It's the Patriarchy that has always tried to control sex workers, that wants women to cover their bodies and that enforces strict sexual norms.
Men wouldn't like to admit that women are the ones who decide who gets sex and who doesn't. So, in fear of admitting that women wield this power, the Patriarchy has always gone against harlots, slut-shaming them and arresting them. It's not a coincidence that in Islamic states it's the prostitutes that are the most free-thinking anti-establishment people. Harlots ruin the ordered world of female sexual selectors as well, because they provide sex and intimacy for social outcasts and physically disabled lonely men as well.
But now harlots everywhere have 2 enemies: both the patriarchy and feminism! |
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Adyon
Joined: 27 May 2012
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Location: Behind my Cintiq
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:55 am Post subject: |
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It's not a lie that it's exploitation of desperate women. Even if you're right and those women are better off in that trade than in factory worker positions, it doesn't change the fact that someone is making a profit off of exploiting them. It wouldn't be exploiting if some rich girl did it just for fun, but taking advantage of the idea that someone is hard up for money is pretty much the definition of exploiting.
I would also start out by saying, most feminists don't care about porn in general existing. The only reason they're so against porn is the porn industry is obsessed with violence towards women. Not that "you can't have your little something to spank yourself to". And because of that, only really desperate women are often willing to do it, because hell, some people actually want to get off to shit like "2 Girls 1 Cup". And yes that's an extreme example, but so much of violence towards women portrayed in porn in general is the problem. Because nothing you see in that should be considered anything you should ever do in sex...EVER. But it doesn't mean some people's minds get warped into wanting just that.
Other than that, I'm going to let someone else handle this. I've got to get a comic cover done within 12 hours, so.
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Succubus1982
Joined: 07 Oct 2009
Posts: 919
Location: England
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:19 am Post subject: |
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| I should support this anti-Porn movement on Squig, but somehow I can't. Not Squig. Squig wouldn't be Squig without his chauvinistic views. It's what makes him funny. I hope he fights it a little longer. |
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Otoh
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Yinello
Joined: 10 May 2012
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Lol Adyon don't even bother. Over and over people have been explaining why there are different feminist groups, why they're not against porn, what they do, what they fight for etc etc but nope! Obviously this person knows how feminists think, despite feminists telling him otherwise. There is only one logical explanation: parasites from Venus have adapted a lifeform on the internet and are repeating their programmed texts to study forum habitats. Best get out the anal probes.
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Samsally
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
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As far as we can tell, estranged is completely incapable of thinking of feminists as simply "a group of people who believe in the equality of women" and spends most of his time making up things to accuse the entire group of.
I assume "feminists" to him are the mustache twirling villains of his very life or something. Anything more complex than that is entirely too complicated to get through. He seems primarily fixated on "feminists" hating all of sex forever and ever which is... hysterical, considering he hasn't managed to find a single person on the forum that wants everybody to stop having sex. Even our most militant feminists haven't suggested it.
At one point I demanded he show me someone on the forums who is even arguing against sex in any way and he linked to some completely different forum. I assume he's raging at us about it because they've banned him or something. I'm not sure what he wishes to accomplish, though, because we've said repeatedly that none of us here believe sex is inherently wrong.
(You could, conceivably, accuse me of hating sex, but I'm all for it when it involves two or more consensual adults that are not me and I don't have to be in the same room. Ironically, he's never thought to do this, I assume because actually getting to know any of us as individuals is anathema to him and detrimental to his bitter, lonely rants.)
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MasterMorality
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| He has a library of videos about glass ceilings... |
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Raza
Joined: 24 Jun 2012
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| Maynar wrote: | | Raza wrote: | This is dreadful. Partisanship this blatant does not make for good art.
Comic is basically:
Panel 1: setting
Panel 2: artist's opinion
Panel 3: strawman character disagreeing with artist's opinion
Panel 4: universe, as designed by the artist, declaring strawman character wrong/silly/intellectually dishonest
It's a puppet debate, with both sides being controlled by someone who wants to make their point and cares nothing about fair representation. There's not even a joke to it. |
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ShadowCell
Joined: 03 Aug 2008
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Location: California
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| sure it was! the 2004 election, the 2008 election, pretty much any time Seymour appears ever... |
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Dogen
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
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Location: Bellingham, WA
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Depictions of God, the Devil, or any representation of religion, society, or the values of interpersonal relationships... yeah, right, Sinfest was never like this before.  Myopia, in "but I don't like it this time" flavor!
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Monkey Mcdermott
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
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Those don't count..he AGREEED with them then.
Edit: Goddamnit Dogen..psyche degree or no GET OUT OF MY HEAD! |
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Dogen
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^5
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Yinello
Joined: 10 May 2012
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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I admit, I kind of wish I was here to witness the religion and political 'debates'.  That must have been tons of fun!
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