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Dogen

Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 9308 Location: Bellingham, WA
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Wait, wait, wait... Adyon are you implying that characters in Sinfest have, at least occasionally, a level of depth which makes accepting or rejecting their premises wholesale intellectually problematic? I don't like it. I, like all men (hurr hurr), like my philosophy in stark black and white. _________________ "Worse comes to worst, my people come first, but my tribe lives on every country on earth. I’ll do anything to protect them from hurt, the human race is what I serve." - Baba Brinkman |
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boozies
Joined: 11 Jul 2009 Posts: 8
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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Truly, I'm really pleased to see this comic. I love that Tat has finally made it explicit that feminism gets rather complex.
For instance, this comic seems to have a really strong stance against pornography--but many feminists seem to have different issues with the industry and practice of using pornography. Anyway, I appreciate the treat, it's kind of nice to see Squig's carefree personality struggle with an ethical issue like this. |
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Mellifluous

Joined: 27 May 2012 Posts: 100 Location: The Bedazzled Bit By the Buckle in the Bible Belt
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, I consider myself a rational feminist, that's not a type, but a personal approach. I don't think of the Sisterhood as RadFems, more second-wave perhaps, but definitely not like any of the RadFems I've encountered. Those women are just off the chain!
Also, I am not of the opinion that second-wave feminists are sex-negative. They are against misogynistic power dynamics around sex and the industry that is absolutely androcentric as we have inherited it. Second-wave feminists were raised in a different culture from ours. Women went to college to get their Mrs. degree; the career they were groomed for was as a wife and mother; they had just won the right to vote, but were taught to keep ignorant of politics and most anything outside of homemaking; they were supposed to be subservient, submissive. It was legal for a husband to rape his wife because sex was his right to have and take as he wished. Access to birth control was just becoming available, and of course, Roe v. Wade gave women some control over their own bodies. All of that is taken for granted by Gen Y and the millennials, and they act accordingly, but the old guard is still in control for now in re: the sex industry, and even in marriage, though I don't feel that the power dynamics of a modern marriage are those of my mother's or even mine. Guys today seem more open to the idea that women are their own people. _________________ Flow like honey, taste like vinegar. |
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Raal

Joined: 16 Jun 2012 Posts: 44
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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Yea I also know some female feminists liking porn. But its the respectful kind. (yes it exists) The ones with much eye contact, hugging, caressing and much more aimed at satisfying the woman alltogether.
Not my stuff though. |
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Adyon

Joined: 27 May 2012 Posts: 954 Location: Behind my Cintiq
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:43 am Post subject: |
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Oh no Dogen, I'd never imply that! I definitely hate things like that too! I like my messages straightforward, cold, and calculating with no way to think of them as having any depth! But not just me...obviously all men as you said. Tat too though...He must obviously be writing everything at face value alone, and no characters must be more complex than the stereotypical archetype they're first presented as!
Thanks for helping me notice my mistake, I wouldn't want anyone getting the wrong idea.
| Raal wrote: | | Yea I also know some female feminists liking porn. But its the respectful kind. (yes it exists) The ones with much eye contact, hugging, caressing and much more aimed at satisfying the woman alltogether. |
Psh...who could like that kind of thing...with all it's focus on actual emotion and realistic tones. Like movies that have anything besides explosions, sex, action, and explosions...I mean seriously, who wants good characters and stories? It's cutting down on time for explosions! _________________ Have a Nice Day |
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Tinrac

Joined: 07 Jun 2012 Posts: 36 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:19 am Post subject: (owo:) |
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hehe. Porn...explosions. *snicker*
5th grade Tinrac signing off _________________ And lo, therefore was the shitstorm summoned from the Abysses of False Civility in which it had briefly hidden, and there was much torment and despair. |
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Darqcyde

Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 9086 Location: A false vacuum abiding in ignorance.
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:41 am Post subject: Re: 2012-07-27 - Third wave feminism |
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Did somebody say third wave?
*Inserts obscure Toasters/Bosstones/Reel Big Fish/Skankin Pickle reference* _________________
...if a single leaf holds the eye, it will be as if the remaining leaves were not there.
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Ten Thousand Things

Joined: 02 Jul 2012 Posts: 89 Location: Glorious City of Luna Llena (no refunds)
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:20 am Post subject: |
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I'm more of a fourth wave feminist myself. You probably haven't heard of it before. _________________
"Wealth beyond measure, outlander." |
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Darqcyde

Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 9086 Location: A false vacuum abiding in ignorance.
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:33 am Post subject: |
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*rimshot* _________________
...if a single leaf holds the eye, it will be as if the remaining leaves were not there.
http://12ozlb.blogspot.com |
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Mr. Meddler

Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 1267 Location: On the sunny side of the street
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:01 am Post subject: |
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I notice that Ashland isn't commenting in this thread.  _________________ WARNING: Microwave musclebear detection devices in use on these premises!
| Pint wrote: | | It, unlike my apartment, does not look like a bachelor lives there. |
Click here to see my artwork! |
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Sudoku

Joined: 19 Jun 2012 Posts: 206 Location: Malaysia
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:22 am Post subject: |
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Third wave feminism, having fun laughing at the people who have sex.
Am I doing it right? _________________ Hey there pretty little lady,
Why are you out so late,
I wouldn't want to be you lady,
Because the wolves gonna want a taste. |
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ktern

Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 894
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:50 am Post subject: |
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| whatever, all hail zombie tat |
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MerchManDan

Joined: 20 Nov 2007 Posts: 1449 Location: Somewhere else.
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:01 am Post subject: |
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| Raal wrote: | | But yea, piggy is kind of missing the point lol. | Squig is quite adept at that.
| Ten Thousand Things wrote: | | I'm more of a fourth wave feminist myself. You probably haven't heard of it before. | Hipster feminism, now? This just gets better & better. _________________
| mouse wrote: | almost a shame to waste dennis' talent on him.
except it's always a pleasure to see a good dennis insult. |
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Yinello

Joined: 10 May 2012 Posts: 1213 Location: Behind you
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:32 am Post subject: |
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*patiently awaits for someone to imply feminism is a hivemind*
No? Aww. _________________ Sinfest Comments Bingo because we like Schadenfreude~ |
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ShadowCell

Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Posts: 5264 Location: California
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| but third wave feminism is a sexy hivemind |
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